Europeans were the first Americans after all?

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Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:05 pm

Radical theory of first Americans places Stone Age Europeans in Delmarva 20,000 years ago http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... ml?hpid=z5

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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Pappa » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:10 pm

Ha! We even beat you to your own continent. :razzle:

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Post by Audley Strange » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:12 pm

Is this the latest and last attempt at grabbing what's left of the natives land? "Sorry, turns out you just got here a bit earlier than us." *ker-theive*
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:12 pm

Does this mean Sean Penn is a colonialist who has to hand his house back to the Native Americans, or not? It's so confusing.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:17 pm

Pappa wrote:Ha! We even beat you to your own continent. :razzle:
We are that "we," Pappa.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:20 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Pappa wrote:Ha! We even beat you to your own continent. :razzle:
We are that "we," Pappa.
Oui, we, wee!
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:39 pm

Never heard of these "Solutreans" before. Still, if you ain't part of the Solutrean, you must be part of the problem....
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Pappa » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:50 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Never heard of these "Solutreans" before. Still, if you ain't part of the Solutrean, you must be part of the problem....
The Solutrians theory's been around for a long time, still based entirely on morphological similarities in stone point manufacture.

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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:18 pm

Pappa wrote:...The Solutrians theory's been around for a long time...
Those were my first thoughts. "Radical" theory? Old theory more like.
Pappa wrote:...still based entirely on morphological similarities in stone point manufacture.
There was as I recall some mitochondrial DNA evidence put forward that appeared to indicate "European" mitochondrial strains present in Native American populations, that diverged from current European strains long before the European colonisation of the Americas. But other interpretations of the data have been put forward.


Of course there's also the separate hypothesis that's been doing the rounds that Australoid people may have entered America prior to the Asians more typically regarded as the ancestors of the Native Americans.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:22 pm

Does this vindicate Joseph Smith?
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Ian » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:30 pm

Delmarva? I live not far from there!

There's nothing to see on the whole peninsula though. It's a big patch of dreary, flat farm country somehow plunked down in the middle of the eastern seaboard. It doesn't even have a good name; "Delmarva" means Delaware/Maryland/Virginia.

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:31 pm

Animavore wrote:Does this vindicate Joseph Smith?
Nope, the Book of Moron still is verifiably wrong.
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Animavore » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:33 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Animavore wrote:Does this vindicate Joseph Smith?
Nope, the Book of Moron still is verifiably wrong.
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:37 pm

Don't make me give you a taste of the ould blackthorn.
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Re: Europeans were the first Americans after all?

Post by laklak » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:33 pm

Ian wrote:Delmarva? I live not far from there!

There's nothing to see on the whole peninsula though. It's a big patch of dreary, flat farm country somehow plunked down in the middle of the eastern seaboard. It doesn't even have a good name; "Delmarva" means Delaware/Maryland/Virginia.
I was born there. Only decent thing about it is it borders the Chesapeake. Blue crabs.......nom.
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