Guns Because

[Jason]

Guns bitches! What the fuck would I have fired off 8 times while extremely drunk if I didn't have a gun?

This one, fire this one next time.
You'll only get five shots, but that's all you'll need.

Izzat a .357? Cuz those look look like .357 cartridges.. but who makes a .357 with only 5 chambers?

[Gallstones]

They're .500's


.44 magnum left, .500 magnum right



Same diameter as a .50bmg
Ouch.

[Seth]

When then gubment decides to send drones to spy on me, what's the best thing to use on them? Shotgun?

Insufficient range. They fly their drones at about 20,000 feet. You'd need a Stinger.

The small ones can also stay out of shotgun range and use telephoto lenses, plus, the big thing is that you'll never know they are around watching you because they are small and quiet.

[Gallstones]

Gun Policy and Law Enforcement: Where police stand on America's hottest issue

It's even got pictures for those of you who find the words too hard.
11 Key Lessons

More than 15,000 verified law enforcement professionals took part in the survey, which aimed to bring together the thoughts and opinions of the only professional group devoted to limiting and defeating gun violence as part of their sworn responsibility.
...
1.) Virtually all respondents (95 percent) say that a federal ban on manufacture and sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds would not reduce violent crime.

2.) The majority of respondents — 71 percent — say a federal ban on the manufacture and sale of some semi-automatics would have no effect on reducing violent crime. However, more than 20 percent say any ban would actually have a negative effect on reducing violent crime. Just over 7 percent took the opposite stance, saying they believe a ban would have a moderate to significant effect.

3.) About 85 percent of officers say the passage of the White House’s currently proposed legislation would have a zero or negative effect on their safety, with just over 10 percent saying it would have a moderate or significantly positive effect.

4.) Seventy percent of respondents say they have a favorable or very favorable opinion of some law enforcement leaders’ public statements that they would not enforce more restrictive gun laws in their jurisdictions. Similarly, more than 61 percent said they would refuse to enforce such laws if they themselves were Chief or Sheriff.

5.) More than 28 percent of officers say having more permissive concealed carry policies for civilians would help most in preventing large scale shootings in public, followed by more aggressive institutionalization for mentally ill persons (about 19 percent) and more armed guards/paid security personnel (about 15 percent). See enlarged image

6.) The overwhelming majority (almost 90 percent) of officers believe that casualties would be decreased if armed citizens were present at the onset of an active-shooter incident.

7.) More than 80 percent of respondents support arming school teachers and administrators who willingly volunteer to train with firearms and carry one in the course of the job.

8.) More than four in five respondents (81 percent) say that gun-buyback programs are ineffective in reducing gun violence.

9.) More than half of respondents feel that increased punishment for obviously illegal gun sales could have a positive impact on reducing gun violence.

10.) When asked whether citizens should be required to complete a safety training class before being allowed to buy a gun, about 43 percent of officers say it should not be required. About 42 percent say it should be required for all weapons, with the remainder favoring training classes for certain weapons.

11.) While some officers say gun violence in the United States stems from violent movies and video games (14 percent), early release and short sentencing for violent offenders (14 percent) and poor identification/treatments of mentally-ill individuals (10 percent), the majority (38 percent) blame a decline in parenting and family values.

Bottom Line Conclusions
Quite clearly, the majority of officers polled oppose the theories brought forth by gun-control advocates who claim that proposed restrictions on weapon capabilities and production would reduce crime.

In fact, many officers responding to this survey seem to feel that those controls will negatively affect their ability to fight violent criminals.

Contrary to what the mainstream media and certain politicians would have us believe, police overwhelmingly favor an armed citizenry, would like to see more guns in the hands of responsible people, and are skeptical of any greater restrictions placed on gun purchase, ownership, or accessibility.

The officers patrolling America’s streets have a deeply-vested interest — and perhaps the most relevant interest — in making sure that decisions related to controlling, monitoring, restricting, as well as supporting and/or prohibiting an armed populace are wise and effective. With this survey, their voice has been heard.

Fucking gun nuts.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fucking gun nuts.

Finally something we can agree on.

[Svartalf]

They're .500's


.44 magnum left, .500 magnum right



Same diameter as a .50bmg
Ouch.

Izzat different from .50?

[Blind groper]

1.) Virtually all respondents (95 percent) say that a federal ban on manufacture and sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds would not reduce violent crime.

Which is totally true. It will not reduce violent crime, but it will change the nature of that violent crime, making it less lethal.

[Blind groper]

2.) The majority of respondents — 71 percent — say a federal ban on the manufacture and sale of some semi-automatics would have no effect on reducing violent crime. However, more than 20 percent say any ban would actually have a negative effect on reducing violent crime.

Not a surprising result when you consider how widely disseminated the John Lott bullshit on concealed weapons was. The old GIGO principle. Feed people intellectual garbage, and they will respond with intellectual garbage.

[Blind groper]

3.) About 85 percent of officers say the passage of the White House’s currently proposed legislation would have a zero or negative effect on their safety, with just over 10 percent saying it would have a moderate or significantly positive effect.

Since the currently proposed legislation does nothing of any significance, a zero effect is what we would expect. As I said before, the only effective legislation would be a reduction in hand gun ownership, and that is not proposed.

I could go on, and comment on all of Gallstone's points, but it is all bullshit, and I am sure most people here reading it will realise that point. When someone writes an article like this, or organises a survey like this, they can get whatever result they want simply by twisting words.

[Gallstones]

I don't have to be liked. I own guns because I can and I want to.

[Gallstones]

They're .500's


.44 magnum left, .500 magnum right



Same diameter as a .50bmg
Ouch.

Izzat different from .50?

Uhm, no. 50 would still be the diameter of the projectile.
The Browning Machine Gun would have pointed bullets whereas the 500 SW Magnum has semi-wadcutters. Partially jacketed as well.

[Gallstones]

3.) About 85 percent of officers say the passage of the White House’s currently proposed legislation would have a zero or negative effect on their safety, with just over 10 percent saying it would have a moderate or significantly positive effect.

Since the currently proposed legislation does nothing of any significance, a zero effect is what we would expect. As I said before, the only effective legislation would be a reduction in hand gun ownership, and that is not proposed.

I could go on, and comment on all of Gallstone's points, but it is all bullshit, and I am sure most people here reading it will realise that point. When someone writes an article like this, or organises a survey like this, they can get whatever result they want simply by twisting words.

Uhm no.
And yours is a constipated argument.

Did you notice that "these people" are your saviors, your heros, Law enforcement--AKA police?
You wish my points were bullshit.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Did you notice that "these people" are your saviors, your heros, Law enforcement--AKA police?
You wish my points were bullshit.

And they're 100% in agreement about guns, of course.

[Gallstones]

Fucking gun nuts.

Finally something we can agree on.

Cops are gun nuts?

You going to register yours, or give them up?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fucking gun nuts.

Finally something we can agree on.

Cops are gun nuts?

You going to register yours, or give them up?

Mine are always registered. I'm not afraid.