Obama is thoroughly pissed off over the senate decision

[Collector1337]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

I don't consider it irrational to think of the children.

I never said thinking of the children is irrational. It's the extremes you're willing to go at the cost of others that is.

[Seabass]

Most gun crime in the US is committed by Blacks, and other Western countries don't have them in the numbers we do. We don't need gun control laws, we need black control laws like we had in the Jim Crow days.

FFS, you need to be slapped upside the head.

He needs more than a slap. May I borrow one of your guns?

Ignoring the problem or pretending it doesn't exist doesn't solve the problem. You could deny that Blacks are the major source of gun crime, but crime statistics prove otherwise. People are quick to blame poverty, but other impoverished groups don't have the same problem. Poor Black behavior such as crime, violence, dropping out of school, and child costs are self-inflicted and the primary reason for their poverty.

Yes, I'm sure slavery and segregation had nothing to do with it.

[JimC]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

This is the raw selfishness of the true gun-nut speaking...

(another clue is capitalising liberty...)

"I don't give a fuck what happens as long as I can have my gun. My precious..."

"Gollum, gollum..."

[FBM]

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[Tyrannical]

Yes, I'm sure slavery and segregation had nothing to do with it.

Before slavery how did they behave back in their native Africa? Cannibalism and human sacrifice was the norm. Segregation and slavery 150 years ago are not to blame. Really, how could segregation which separated Blacks from Whites make Blacks want to murder Blacks?

Natural selection and behavioral genetics is the real reason. People still believe in evolution, right?

[Collector1337]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

This is the raw selfishness of the true gun-nut speaking...

(another clue is capitalising liberty...)

"I don't give a fuck what happens as long as I can have my gun. My precious..."

"Gollum, gollum..."

Yeah, keep telling yourself that arrogant, high and mighty bullshit.

You'd think that atheists would actually value their life enough to defend it considering they don't believe in an afterlife. It's funny you don't take guarding this one little more seriously.

[Rum]

Yes, I'm sure slavery and segregation had nothing to do with it.

Before slavery how did they behave back in their native Africa? Cannibalism and human sacrifice was the norm. Segregation and slavery 150 years ago are not to blame. Really, how could segregation which separated Blacks from Whites make Blacks want to murder Blacks?

Natural selection and behavioral genetics is the real reason. People still believe in evolution, right?

Oi - idiot boy - the reason is poverty.

[JimC]

Collector1337 wrote:

...It's funny you don't take guarding this one little more seriously....

I don't need a gun for self defence...

I don't live in a country who's lunatic gun laws might make that necessary...

Enjoy your paranoid life...

[tattuchu]

Collector1337 wrote:

...It's funny you don't take guarding this one little more seriously....

I don't need a gun for self defence...

I don't live in a country who's lunatic gun laws might make that necessary...

Enjoy your paranoid life...

And you're a nation of criminals ferchissake! And you still don't feel the need to carry guns!

[tattuchu]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

This is the raw selfishness of the true gun-nut speaking...

(another clue is capitalising liberty...)

"I don't give a fuck what happens as long as I can have my gun. My precious..."

"Gollum, gollum..."

[Tyrannical]

Yes, I'm sure slavery and segregation had nothing to do with it.

Before slavery how did they behave back in their native Africa? Cannibalism and human sacrifice was the norm. Segregation and slavery 150 years ago are not to blame. Really, how could segregation which separated Blacks from Whites make Blacks want to murder Blacks?

Natural selection and behavioral genetics is the real reason. People still believe in evolution, right?

Oi - idiot boy - the reason is poverty.

The poverty angle has been disproved, or at least a mountain of evidence against it. Much of their poverty is self inflicted anyways, hard to find a decent job with a criminal record or having dropped out of school. Poor doesn't explain senseless violence anyways.

[Rum]

Yes, I'm sure slavery and segregation had nothing to do with it.

Before slavery how did they behave back in their native Africa? Cannibalism and human sacrifice was the norm. Segregation and slavery 150 years ago are not to blame. Really, how could segregation which separated Blacks from Whites make Blacks want to murder Blacks?

Natural selection and behavioral genetics is the real reason. People still believe in evolution, right?

Oi - idiot boy - the reason is poverty.

The poverty angle has been disproved, or at least a mountain of evidence against it. Much of their poverty is self inflicted anyways, hard to find a decent job with a criminal record or having dropped out of school. Poor doesn't explain senseless violence anyways.

However stupidity, ignorance and fear explain bigotry and racism.

[Seth]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

I don't consider it irrational to think of the children.

It's not. What's irrational is to propose as solutions infringements on people's fundamental rights that will have absolutely no effect whatsoever in preventing such attacks in the future. That's called "dancing on the graves of the dead children," which is exactly what the Marxist Progressive-in-Chief and his minions have been doing since the moment it happened. They had their gun control plans ALREADY DRAFTED, sitting in a file WAITING FOR THE NEXT MASS SHOOTING TO TAKE PLACE precisely so that they could capitalize on the emotions and public horror. They are despicable, disgusting cowards and scumbags of the worst sort. They know they can't win a stand-up fight about gun control because the last time they tried it, they lost control of the federal government and many state legislatures, so they use these sorts of reprehensible tactics to forward their gun ban agenda that they know full well won't have any effect in preventing mass shootings by deranged people.

[Collector1337]

But surely you have to do something

No, we don't.

You don't do something just to do something. That's coming from an emotional, fear filled, irrational place. "OMG, We must do SOMETHING! Oh PLEASE, just think of the children!" Ridiculous.

You do something that's worth doing and not at the cost of people's Liberty.

I don't consider it irrational to think of the children.

It's not. What's irrational is to propose as solutions infringements on people's fundamental rights that will have absolutely no effect whatsoever in preventing such attacks in the future. That's called "dancing on the graves of the dead children," which is exactly what the Marxist Progressive-in-Chief and his minions have been doing since the moment it happened. They had their gun control plans ALREADY DRAFTED, sitting in a file WAITING FOR THE NEXT MASS SHOOTING TO TAKE PLACE precisely so that they could capitalize on the emotions and public horror. They are despicable, disgusting cowards and scumbags of the worst sort. They know they can't win a stand-up fight about gun control because the last time they tried it, they lost control of the federal government and many state legislatures, so they use these sorts of reprehensible tactics to forward their gun ban agenda that they know full well won't have any effect in preventing mass shootings by deranged people.

This is 100% true.

They know they can't win based on merits, so they just wait. All their gun control bills, drafted and ready to go, just waiting. Just waiting for something bad to happen so they can push their agenda while emotions are high and people are not thinking rationally.

It's totally disgusting.

For the record, I am actually a registered democrat and have never voted for a republican in my life, but after this brazen attempt at limiting our rights and despicable tactics, waiting around for something bad to happen to take advantage of it, I will never vote democrat ever again.

If you think about it, since their goal should be to win votes, and gain support, not lose it, they fucked up pretty bad because I am not the only voter they've alienated for life.

[Collector1337]

Collector1337 wrote:

...It's funny you don't take guarding this one little more seriously....

I don't need a gun for self defence...

Yeah, keep believing that. I'll see you at your funeral.

I don't live in a country who's lunatic gun laws might make that necessary...

Are you stupid or something? Do you live in some utopia with zero crime of any kind?

I think not. You have truly been trained to be a victim. You are a little defenseless sheep, who cannot protect themselves from danger. Better hope the sheepdog comes in time before you get eaten.

Enjoy your paranoid life...

Are you a mental health professional?

I think not. So, you should not be making such ignorant claims, because clearly you know nothing of psychology.

Ask any mental health professional if owning a gun is "paranoid." Do it. I dare you. Let me know what they say.


You know what is paranoid though? Imposing on an entire country's freedom and right to defend their lives, and the lives of their families because you are scared and don't think anyone should be allowed to have a gun.

Imposing on people on such a massive scale like that... now that's paranoid. It's sick.

I could never sleep at night knowing that I contribute to the loss of the ability of people to defend their life, and their families lives. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You could at least have the decency to allow people to make those decisions for themselves, instead of having this holier than thou attitude that you know what's best for everyone.

That kind of arrogance is absolutely vile. You don't get to make those kinds of decisions for other people. They have a natural right to defend themselves and their family's lives, you have ZERO say in the matter.

The fact that you probably sleep well at night while keeping people from protecting themselves, which sometimes costs them their life, displays the level of sickness gun grabbers suffer from.