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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 23, 2013 4:48 pm

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mistermack wrote:From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.
There was a report that one of them was intercepted trying to travel to Somalia, that was how he came under the radar of MI5. They were apparently from Christian families, and converted to Islam.

That's why the dumb fuckers were quoting from the bible, as well as the koran.
The shit he was coming out with on camera actually reminded me of Tom Cruise. It was memorised phrases, with no brain behind it, just stock phrases being recycled. Tom Cruise was doing much the same thing in an interview about his own dumb religion. It gets them through having to actually explain something, when they don't actually know what the fuck they are talking about.

As far as Soldiers go, I don't feel much grief for them. They join up knowing that they will be called on to kill people, including the innocent, on orders from above. Getting killed is a chance they knowingly and willingly take. Our soldiers kill more innocent people than terrorists do.
I feel sorry for the relatives, not the soldier.
So, it was OK for the IRA to kill soldiers then, any time, anywhere? Even off-duty? Even if they were in a nom-com role? Even if they were somewhere other than in NI?
I'd argue that mil-pers is a military target 24/7/365... but I'm not arguing IRA with an Irishman.

Why not? After all, Irishmen argue over the IRA.
Last Irisshman on my family tree fought at the Boyne... it's hard to argue those issues against a national when you're a foreigner.
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Post by cronus » Thu May 23, 2013 6:40 pm

Looks like he comes from a reasonably respectable neighbourhood....must be religion not poverty in this case? :coffee:

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Post by MrJonno » Thu May 23, 2013 6:42 pm

Is that a single house, its absolutely enormous?
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Post by cronus » Thu May 23, 2013 6:55 pm

MrJonno wrote:Is that a single house, its absolutely enormous?
No, this is big. :coffee:

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Post by En_Route » Thu May 23, 2013 7:41 pm

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mistermack wrote:From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.
There was a report that one of them was intercepted trying to travel to Somalia, that was how he came under the radar of MI5. They were apparently from Christian families, and converted to Islam.

That's why the dumb fuckers were quoting from the bible, as well as the koran.
The shit he was coming out with on camera actually reminded me of Tom Cruise. It was memorised phrases, with no brain behind it, just stock phrases being recycled. Tom Cruise was doing much the same thing in an interview about his own dumb religion. It gets them through having to actually explain something, when they don't actually know what the fuck they are talking about.

As far as Soldiers go, I don't feel much grief for them. They join up knowing that they will be called on to kill people, including the innocent, on orders from above. Getting killed is a chance they knowingly and willingly take. Our soldiers kill more innocent people than terrorists do.
I feel sorry for the relatives, not the soldier.
So, it was OK for the IRA to kill soldiers then, any time, anywhere? Even off-duty? Even if they were in a nom-com role? Even if they were somewhere other than in NI?
I'd argue that mil-pers is a military target 24/7/365... but I'm not arguing IRA with an Irishman.

Why not? After all, Irishmen argue over the IRA.
Last Irisshman on my family tree fought at the Boyne... it's hard to argue those issues against a national when you're a foreigner.
Most Irish nationals are not nationalists.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 23, 2013 7:52 pm

I may be more of a nationalist than most irish nationals... I have this hostility for the english ingrained by 3 centuries of family tradition... We may be French now, but the mix still is there.
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Post by En_Route » Thu May 23, 2013 8:01 pm

The Irish are on the whole more amusing companions than the English but more slippery to deal with.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 23, 2013 8:03 pm

I wouldn't know, I never had serious dealings when I was there, I was there to study and enjoy.
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Post by En_Route » Thu May 23, 2013 8:30 pm

Svartalf wrote: I was there to study and enjoy.
Not necessarily in that order, I trust.
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Post by mistermack » Thu May 23, 2013 8:45 pm

Svartalf wrote:I may be more of a nationalist than most irish nationals... I have this hostility for the english ingrained by 3 centuries of family tradition... We may be French now, but the mix still is there.
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I didn't know that French people needed any Irish blood to have hostility for the English. Most manage perfectly well without any trace of it.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 23, 2013 8:54 pm

En_Route wrote:
Svartalf wrote: I was there to study and enjoy.
Not necessarily in that order, I trust.
I did most of my master's thesis in Dublin... SSeriously, could not have done it without the stay there, just did not have enough material available in France in those days of before the internet and Amazon.com.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 23, 2013 8:55 pm

mistermack wrote:
Svartalf wrote:I may be more of a nationalist than most irish nationals... I have this hostility for the english ingrained by 3 centuries of family tradition... We may be French now, but the mix still is there.
Éirinn ag' Alba go Brách
I didn't know that French people needed any Irish blood to have hostility for the English. Most manage perfectly well without any trace of it.
We needed the Irish and Scottish admixture to make it personal.
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Post by Mallardz » Thu May 23, 2013 9:00 pm

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MrJonno wrote:Is that a single house, its absolutely enormous?
No, this is big. :coffee:

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 24, 2013 2:18 am

klr wrote:
RiverF wrote:I read the attackers are Somalian? What is their background? What happened to them to make them capable of behaving this way? Have they been damaged by a vicious war?

Religious dogma preying on vulnerable, unstable minds .. rationalising horrendous acts in the name of their tyrannical god.

The psychology of it is fascinating, frightening ...


I feel for the attacked man's family, friends and community. :(
At least one is of Nigerian extraction, if not both. They were probably born and raised in the UK.
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