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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 1:47 pm
born-again-atheist wrote:Yes, exi, it is.
There are no 'objectively' correct actions without an objective and conscious arbiter to enforce them.
Okay, technically there isn't. While I agree actions are subjective, there are certain norms that seem to be reasonably accounted for by most societies-any deviation from that norm would be looked upon as "wrong" or indifferent, etc.
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by Animavore » Wed May 06, 2009 1:50 pm
Meh.
When I was 2 I was shipping drugs and running guns.
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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 1:52 pm
Animavore wrote:Meh.
When I was 2 I was shipping drugs and running guns.

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by Trolldor » Wed May 06, 2009 2:16 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Yes, exi, it is.
There are no 'objectively' correct actions without an objective and conscious arbiter to enforce them.
Okay, technically there isn't. While I agree actions are subjective, there are certain norms that seem to be reasonably accounted for by most societies-any deviation from that norm would be looked upon as "wrong" or indifferent, etc.
There are common ones because most cultures can be traced to having been influenced by a single dominating culture, and most of these dominating cultures are products of the previously dominating cultures.
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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 2:32 pm
born-again-atheist wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Yes, exi, it is.
There are no 'objectively' correct actions without an objective and conscious arbiter to enforce them.
Okay, technically there isn't. While I agree actions are subjective, there are certain norms that seem to be reasonably accounted for by most societies-any deviation from that norm would be looked upon as "wrong" or indifferent, etc.
There are common ones because most cultures can be traced to having been influenced by a single dominating culture, and most of these dominating cultures are products of the previously dominating cultures.
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
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by Animavore » Wed May 06, 2009 3:38 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Yes, exi, it is.
There are no 'objectively' correct actions without an objective and conscious arbiter to enforce them.
Okay, technically there isn't. While I agree actions are subjective, there are certain norms that seem to be reasonably accounted for by most societies-any deviation from that norm would be looked upon as "wrong" or indifferent, etc.
There are common ones because most cultures can be traced to having been influenced by a single dominating culture, and most of these dominating cultures are products of the previously dominating cultures.
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
Even going for a shit?
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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 3:40 pm
Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:born-again-atheist wrote:Yes, exi, it is.
There are no 'objectively' correct actions without an objective and conscious arbiter to enforce them.
Okay, technically there isn't. While I agree actions are subjective, there are certain norms that seem to be reasonably accounted for by most societies-any deviation from that norm would be looked upon as "wrong" or indifferent, etc.
There are common ones because most cultures can be traced to having been influenced by a single dominating culture, and most of these dominating cultures are products of the previously dominating cultures.
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
Even going for a shit?
Taking a shit is instinctual, but where you take your shit is the product of culture.

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by Animavore » Wed May 06, 2009 3:49 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
Even going for a shit?
Taking a shit is instinctual, but where you take your shit is the product of culture.

It may be instinctual but, its still normal for members of any society to go for a shit whether its in a river, a bucket or a toilet.
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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 3:52 pm
Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
Even going for a shit?
Taking a shit is instinctual, but where you take your shit is the product of culture.

It may be instinctual but, its still normal for members of any society to go for a shit whether its in a river, a bucket or a toilet.
As long as that cultural deems it normal.
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by Animavore » Wed May 06, 2009 3:55 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:Existentialist1844 wrote:
I agree 100% with you. Any social norm is a product of culture, traditions, etc.
Even going for a shit?
Taking a shit is instinctual, but where you take your shit is the product of culture.

It may be instinctual but, its still normal for members of any society to go for a shit whether its in a river, a bucket or a toilet.
As long as that cultural deems it normal.
Who doesn't deem going for a shit normal?
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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 3:59 pm
Animavore wrote:
Who doesn't deem going for a shit normal?
Going for a shit is normal! Where you take a shit can be looked upon as normal or abnormal.
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by Animavore » Wed May 06, 2009 4:02 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:
Who doesn't deem going for a shit normal?
Going for a shit is normal! Where you take a shit can be looked upon as normal or abnormal.
But, it still doesn't subtract from the fact that going for a shit is a societal norm which falls outside of culture and tradition.
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by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed May 06, 2009 4:03 pm
Existentialist1844 wrote:Animavore wrote:
Who doesn't deem going for a shit normal?
Going for a shit is normal! Where you take a shit can be looked upon as normal or abnormal.
Going for a shit and then emailing someone to tell them about it, for example. That would be fucking deranged, wouldn't it?

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by Existentialist1844 » Wed May 06, 2009 4:04 pm
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