Go to London..but don't lose your head over it!

[MrJonno]

You want to ban cars too. You've gotta be shitting me

In cities for anything other than emergencies services,taxis or other special needs, the world is already heading that way and has been doing so but may decades. You need to pay to drive into central London (that's separate to having to park). Could easily spend £50 /$80 a day in parking fees/ congestion charge to do so. Wasn't New York considering something similar.

90% + of people in London (and New York) use public transport every day to get to work, how else would a city that large function?.

Outside cities cars are generally restricted by taxes on petrol (while they bring in revenue of their prime purposes is to encourage people not to drive) and road tolls. There isnt any requirement for any legal restrictions (yet)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Can we move this to the Knife Club, please.

[Pappa]

Knife laws work very well in the UK, the public generally don't carry knives. It's illegal to carry a kitchen knife in the UK without just cause by the way. You had better be a chef or have just purchased to take home (burden of proof on you)

It's a little stricter than that. Just being a chef isn't enough, you need to be taking the knife to or from a place you intend using it. Same goes for fishing knives, carpet knives, etc..

[Guy_Montag]

Rumour has it that Glasgow had the highest proportion of carpet fitters in the UK, or was it the highest proportion of neds with stanley knives in the UK... I forget now.

[Bella Fortuna]

From the BBC live news feed:

BBC reporters are discovering more details about Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo. He is 28 years old and left college in 2001. He is said to come from a very devout Christian family but converted to Islam after college. He is described as having been bright and witty when he was at college.

Ah, converts... often the most deluded and fanatical types of believers...

[klr]

From the BBC live news feed:

BBC reporters are discovering more details about Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo. He is 28 years old and left college in 2001. He is said to come from a very devout Christian family but converted to Islam after college. He is described as having been bright and witty when he was at college.

Ah, converts... often the most deluded and fanatical types of believers...

Exactly, perhaps because they feel the need to somehow prove they are the "real deal" in in terms of devoutness and zeal.

[Audley Strange]

Rumour has it that Glasgow had the highest proportion of carpet fitters in the UK, or was it the highest proportion of neds with stanley knives in the UK... I forget now.

I doubt it. Stanley knives are as fashionable as stay-press trousers and pringle jumpers amongst the would be crims. They're good for tribal battle initiation markings (what the natives refer to as a ripped jaw) but not for any serious long term damage. Last I heard Small screwdrivers are a popular choice, but we go wide with it here, I've seen everything from Golf Clubs to katana, though the ubiquitous glass bottle still seems to be the perennial favourite for sports clothes wearing urchins.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Call me old-fashioned:

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[Bella Fortuna]

From the BBC live news feed:

BBC reporters are discovering more details about Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo. He is 28 years old and left college in 2001. He is said to come from a very devout Christian family but converted to Islam after college. He is described as having been bright and witty when he was at college.

Ah, converts... often the most deluded and fanatical types of believers...

Exactly, perhaps because they feel the need to somehow prove they are the "real deal" in in terms of devoutness and zeal.

That's part of it, probably. At least people who are raised with religious brainwashing can be in some sense forgiven as they never knew anything else and were manipulated from children. Those who make a conscious choice, with eyes open, to subscribe to fanatical delusions, though...

[mistermack]

From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.
There was a report that one of them was intercepted trying to travel to Somalia, that was how he came under the radar of MI5. They were apparently from Christian families, and converted to Islam.

That's why the dumb fuckers were quoting from the bible, as well as the koran.
The shit he was coming out with on camera actually reminded me of Tom Cruise. It was memorised phrases, with no brain behind it, just stock phrases being recycled. Tom Cruise was doing much the same thing in an interview about his own dumb religion. It gets them through having to actually explain something, when they don't actually know what the fuck they are talking about.

As far as Soldiers go, I don't feel much grief for them. They join up knowing that they will be called on to kill people, including the innocent, on orders from above. Getting killed is a chance they knowingly and willingly take. Our soldiers kill more innocent people than terrorists do.
I feel sorry for the relatives, not the soldier.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.

So, the whole thing's a scam?

[mistermack]

From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.

So, the whole thing's a scam?

If you say so.

[klr]

From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.
There was a report that one of them was intercepted trying to travel to Somalia, that was how he came under the radar of MI5. They were apparently from Christian families, and converted to Islam.

That's why the dumb fuckers were quoting from the bible, as well as the koran.
The shit he was coming out with on camera actually reminded me of Tom Cruise. It was memorised phrases, with no brain behind it, just stock phrases being recycled. Tom Cruise was doing much the same thing in an interview about his own dumb religion. It gets them through having to actually explain something, when they don't actually know what the fuck they are talking about.

As far as Soldiers go, I don't feel much grief for them. They join up knowing that they will be called on to kill people, including the innocent, on orders from above. Getting killed is a chance they knowingly and willingly take. Our soldiers kill more innocent people than terrorists do.
I feel sorry for the relatives, not the soldier.

So, it was OK for the IRA to kill soldiers then, any time, anywhere? Even off-duty? Even if they were in a nom-com role? Even if they were somewhere other than in NI?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

From what I've heard, these guys are of Nigerian origin, not Somalian.

So, the whole thing's a scam?

If you say so.

Hey, they're Nigerians, so ...

[mistermack]

So, it was OK for the IRA to kill soldiers then, any time, anywhere? Even off-duty? Even if they were in a nom-com role? Even if they were somewhere other than in NI?

I don't follow your logic.
Just because I'm not fond of soldiers, or feel much grief for one, doesn't make it ok to kill them.

I very rarely kill anyone. Nor feel the urge.

Maybe when the black and tans were operating, I might have been tempted.