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Post by apophenia » Tue May 31, 2011 7:00 am

charlou wrote: I'd have thought a thumb is pretty useless without opposable fingers? If I had to choose any one finger to keep, I think it would be my right index.
You have a point, but keep in mind the thumb can oppose the fingers or the palm, and in doing so, the thumb is a much stronger digit, so the range of tasks it can accomplish by this opposition is larger.
Charlou wrote: Touch typing (I do this) requires the use of all fingers dancing upon the keyboard in coordination in such a practiced way as to not even need any focus on the mechanics of the task ... Reducing that down to a single thumb ... well, I'd think that the previously practiced coordination of touch typing with eight fingers and thumb (in my case, being right handed, the right thumb) is rendered useless, and I can imagine that single digit touch typing must take some brain retraining?
Actually not, I know by feel that the same thing is going on, just in a slightly different way -- instead of thinking of a word and the fingers firing off in sequence, I think of a word and the trajectory of my hand and thumb follow an arc that is essentially the same... er, but different. It's hard to explain coherently, but I know the same thing is happening -- I'm generating actions based on a neural map that correlates the idea of a word with the actions that will accomplish that word. The only major difference is that because there is so much motion involved, I have to watch my typing so my "dance" doesn't wander from home (much like typists who accidentally shift their hands one position over and start typing gibberish). Of course that has drawbacks, especially for interactive conversations like irc, which results in my finishing hammering out my thought, only to look up and realize that the conversation has moved on, or worse, that some window has stolen focus and I've been impotently typing away to no effect.

Another aspect is the shift, control, alt and Capslock keys. There is accessibility software built into windows that holds the key down for the next keypress, so for capital R, I press SHIFT followed by r; if I press shift twice, the shift key is held until I press it again. Unfortunately, these helpers can wreak havoc if I or they lose state, and start doing unintended things. Forgetting that I have Capslock on and typing a whole message, shouted, in irc; and lately, because my hand really is flying, sometimes when I hit a key I may hit two, or hit one so hard it fires the other -- this is mostly a problem with the 'a', which is right next to the Capslock key, so I end up accidentally turning Capslock on, and typing reams of text before looking up to see that it's all in caps. :doh:

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue May 31, 2011 7:28 am

I know what you mean on the touch-typing thing, apophenia - I touch type with both hands (self-taught on a typewriter, many years before computer keyboards became ubiquitous) but can also do it one-handed (say, if I'm eating something with the other (yeah, yeah, you guys, or doing that)). My typing hand just "knows" where to go to keep typing, even though it's taking the role of both hands, albeit more slowly. I think there's a mental map of what's on the keyboard - it's completely unconscious - but the brain is clever enough to translate for the tools (fingers) available.

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Post by FBM » Tue May 31, 2011 7:54 am

Muscle memory rocks... :tup: And it's unconscious...
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Post by apophenia » Tue May 31, 2011 11:24 am

FBM wrote:Muscle memory rocks... :tup: And it's unconscious...
Unconscious? You mean like knocked out loaded or passed out drunk?

That IS amazing! :D
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Post by Feck » Tue May 31, 2011 11:27 am

You type much better than I do .
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Post by FBM » Tue May 31, 2011 12:22 pm

apophenia wrote:
FBM wrote:Muscle memory rocks... :tup: And it's unconscious...
Unconscious? You mean like knocked out loaded or passed out drunk?

That IS amazing! :D
:lol: Unconscious, subconscious...meh. Splitting hairs. :shifty:
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:19 pm

Hello, apophenia-- I never greeted you when you first arrived.

We have some things in common. But I won't get into that now.

I've just read this last page, about touch typing, and I was wondering (maybe you get into it earlier) if prosthetic fingers would be helpful-- and wondering what they'd need to be like to do the job well (I build costumes, so this sort of design question is interesting to me.) I mean-- what sort of shape would be useful, or how they'd attach to your hands to be able to use muscle memory.

I hope that sort of wondering doesn't seem rude. The idea of losing fingers is one that frightens me a lot-- I admire your ability to recover from that. And picturing these sorts of solutions-- prosthetics and such-- fascinates me, and helps me manage the fear.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:23 pm

The VA is doing a lot of work on prosthetics these days. I saw one guy trying to snap his "fingers" last time I was at JC.
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Post by Azathoth » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:11 am

apophenia wrote: this is mostly a problem with the 'a', which is right next to the Capslock key, so I end up accidentally turning Capslock on, and typing reams of text before looking up to see that it's all in caps. :doh:
I do that shit all the time and I have a full compliment of fingers. I keep threatening to remap my keyboard to deactivate the evil fucker but never get around to it.
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Re: Welcome apophenia!

Post by charlou » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:25 am

apophenia, I owe you an apology ... Your posts are often so lengthy and beautifully written that I must admit to being skeptical about your story initially. I've come to realise that it was my prejudice and ignorance about what it is possible to achieve on a keyboard with nine fingers missing which was causing the skepticism. After giving it some thought, what matters most to me is that I find you interesting: intelligent, witty, insightful and unusual .. and I just like you.
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Re: Welcome apophenia!

Post by apophenia » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:45 am

charlou wrote:apophenia, I owe you an apology ... Your posts are often so lengthy and beautifully written that I must admit to being skeptical about your story initially. I've come to realise that it was my prejudice and ignorance about what it is possible to achieve on a keyboard with nine fingers missing which was causing the skepticism. After giving it some thought, what matters most to me is that I find you interesting: intelligent, witty, insightful and unusual .. and I just like you.
Wow. I'm dumbfounded. I had no inkling you had such reservations about me. I've always found you to be most loving, supportive and kind to me. I applaud the strength, courage, and, love, that it took for you to share this with me. Before I go any further, let me insist, strenuously, that you owe me no apology whatsoever. Thoughts, feelings, whatever -- I don't believe in thought crimes; how you deal with them, what actions or words you choose based on them, sure, but not the thoughts themselves. You are blameless.

And it's perfectly understandable to me that a person would have doubts trying to reconcile my abilities with my handicap. Indeed, when I returned to irc chatting in earnest after many months away with hospital and whatnot, there were those among my fellow moderators who doubted my story -- my typing was too fast, and the punctuation and capitalization too perfect (them not knowing about stickykeys). So I scanned my hands in my multifunction printer and that shut them up. I think they're being kind, but some remark I'm faster with one finger than they are with ten. If they, gauging my performance in real time were skeptical, your skepticism in this medium is quite understandable.

It's late, and my thinking is coming apart as I try to express and respond, so I'll simply cut to the chase. Charlou, I adore you. I simply adore you. You have never mistreated me, been unkind, you've been wonderful to me. There is no harm here. None at all.


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Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:16 am

FBM wrote:"If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." - Isaac Newton.

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Post by JimC » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:22 am

Cheers and salutations, Apophenia; a remarkable tale!
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:23 am

Azathoth wrote:
apophenia wrote: this is mostly a problem with the 'a', which is right next to the Capslock key, so I end up accidentally turning Capslock on, and typing reams of text before looking up to see that it's all in caps. :doh:
I do that shit all the time and I have a full compliment of fingers. I keep threatening to remap my keyboard to deactivate the evil fucker but never get around to it.
Funny, most of my capslock trouble is from my hitting it instead of the shift key.
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Post by JimC » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:29 am

Svartalf wrote:
Azathoth wrote:
apophenia wrote: this is mostly a problem with the 'a', which is right next to the Capslock key, so I end up accidentally turning Capslock on, and typing reams of text before looking up to see that it's all in caps. :doh:
I do that shit all the time and I have a full compliment of fingers. I keep threatening to remap my keyboard to deactivate the evil fucker but never get around to it.
Funny, most of my capslock trouble is from my hitting it instead of the shift key.
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