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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by Animavore » Fri May 10, 2013 8:50 pm

Um.... All of them.
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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by Rum » Fri May 10, 2013 8:51 pm

Animavore wrote:Um.... All of them.
Well yes, but some of them make an attempt at plausibility.

Sound in outer space FFS! :sulk:

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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by Animavore » Fri May 10, 2013 8:55 pm

How about in Wall-E when the spaceship banks and everyone slides down in the direction of the tilt. But if they're on a spaceship in space then there is no "down" unless the spaceship creates it artificially. If this is the case then it doesn't matter what way you bank, tilt or flip the thing. Down will always be toward the ground. They wouldn't even notice it was banking.

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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by PsychoSerenity » Fri May 10, 2013 9:12 pm

I did this thread before here if anyone fancies merging it or just for reading.

And still, no matter how much bad science fiction I see, for me nothing beats the sinking ice in G.I. Joe.
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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by Mallardz » Fri May 10, 2013 10:18 pm

I watched "upside down" I believed originally, sobriety irrelevant, that it commented on gravitons and a second kind of graviton effecting persons gravitational pull. In the end love changes ones gravity and the gravitons affecting them which seems a little odd or well ridiculous.
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Post by Seth » Sat May 11, 2013 4:07 am

Oh my god, definitely "GI Joe - The Rise of Cobra."

What's wrong with this plot...keeping in mind the "secret base" is underwater and the Joes are escaping by tactical submarine....
After a fight, Storm Shadow and the Baroness retrieve the warheads and take them to Baron DeCobray, the Baroness's husband, for him to weaponize. Making their way to Paris, the Joes pursue the Baroness and Storm Shadow, but are unsuccessful in stopping them from launching one of the missiles. The missile hits the Eiffel Tower and releases the nanomites in it, destroying the tower and some of the surrounding area before Duke manages to hit the kill switch, but in doing so he is captured and taken to McCullen's base under the Arctic.

The Joes locate the secret base and fly there, as McCullen loads three missiles with nano-warheads, which are aimed for Beijing, Moscow, and Washington, D.C., the world's three most important cities. He intends to do this to strike fear into the hearts of every man, woman, and child on the planet, after which they will turn to the person with the most power in the world, the President of the United States. After Snake Eyes takes out one missile, Ripcord destroys the remaining two using a stolen M.A.R.S. prototype Night Raven jet, while Scarlett, Breaker, and Snake Eyes infiltrate the base. Snake Eyes duels and prevails over Storm Shadow. Duke learns that the Doctor is Rex Lewis, Ana's brother believed to have been killed by a mistimed airstrike during a mission led by Duke (also the origin of the alienation between Duke and Ana). Rex had encountered Doctor Mindbender (Kevin J. O'Connor) in the bunker and was seduced by the nanomite technology, taking too long to retrieve the data and getting caught in the bombing, which disfigured him. After freeing Duke, the Baroness is subdued, as the Doctor reveals he has implanted her with nanomites, which has put her under his control for the past four years. Attempting to kill Duke, McCullen ends up being burned, so he and the Doctor flee to an escape vessel. Duke and the Baroness pursue him while the Joes fall back, when the Doctor activates the base's self-destruct sequence; which involves 'blowing the ice cap' to create blocks of ice which then nearly crush the Joes.
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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by cronus » Sat May 11, 2013 4:29 am

They all ignore the rules of physics. They don't even pretend the technology is important, unless it is going to blow up, it is a prop and there as eye candy. Watched The New World on DVD last night, why can't sci-fi do people with depth like historical dramas? it seems sci-fi can neither achieve ground on ideas, storyline or characterization....leaving only the special effects. A sad end to a genre which once had so much potential for giving direction and ideals for the future. Yet, somehow it is fitting given the larger picture of technical navel-gazing concerning 'social medias' triumph over the real and actual space race.
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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by FBM » Sat May 11, 2013 4:37 am

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Animavore wrote:Um.... All of them.
Well yes, but some of them make an attempt at plausibility.

Sound in outer space FFS! :sulk:
That's what turned me off the whole SF film genre. :nono:
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Post by klr » Sat May 11, 2013 9:25 am

PsychoSerenity wrote:I did this thread before here if anyone fancies merging it or just for reading.

And still, no matter how much bad science fiction I see, for me nothing beats the sinking ice in G.I. Joe.
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Re: Most spectacular piece of scientific revisionism in film

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 11, 2013 9:28 am

Did you notice that the pool balls shifted when the ship "turned to go into orbit" or some damn thing? Artificial gravity must be subject to some law we don't yet know about.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sat May 11, 2013 10:54 am

People blown off their feet by gunshots fired by others who remain standing...Newton's third law violated. :lay:
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Post by Seth » Sun May 12, 2013 1:24 am

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:People blown off their feet by gunshots fired by others who remain standing...Newton's third law violated. :lay:
Unless it's a Gyrojet round that accelerates after it leaves the barrel.
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Post by Seth » Sun May 12, 2013 1:24 am

About the ice thing...anyone?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun May 12, 2013 1:31 am

Tony Stark falling in space during the last movie.
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Re: Science Fiction films which ignore the rules of physics!

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun May 12, 2013 1:43 am

Animavore wrote:How about in Wall-E when the spaceship banks and everyone slides down in the direction of the tilt. But if they're on a spaceship in space then there is no "down" unless the spaceship creates it artificially. If this is the case then it doesn't matter what way you bank, tilt or flip the thing. Down will always be toward the ground. They wouldn't even notice it was banking.

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Sorry, but you're wrong here. There is no way to distinguish velocity in space - but it is certainly possible to distinguish acceleration. And, when a spaceship banks, it is simultaneously reducing its forward velocity while increasing its sideways velocity - acceleration in two dimensions. This would be noticeable to any inhabitants, in exactly the same way that you notice when a car/train goes around a bend. :prof:
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