Nice, I was going for the intellectual elite wanna be.Paco wrote:I think you are trying to have a joke here (no offence if you aren't) but it's posts like that which stop me from contributing to RDF, it's full of words that are there to try and give the impression of intelligence but it isn't how intelligent people talk. I know for a fact that you are intelligent, Ashton, and what you're saying above is something I mostly agree with but I find your use of vocabulary quite pretentious and snootyAshtonBlack wrote:I accept your postulation. I, personally, think that a good education, with a little self reflection is the antithesis of theism and woo in general.Paco wrote:I've met enough clever theists and stupid atheists to know that what you're saying is right, my point was more that the atheists who find their way onto RDF are more than likely going to be intelligent because they wouldn't be there if they hadn't thought it through.AshtonBlack wrote:There is a statistical correlation (though with other factors, I'm sure) between intelligence (as a definition I'm including emotional intelligence too) and a lack of belief in god or gods. But like all things with reference to people, it's a shifted bell curve, so we can expect clever theists and stupid atheists as well. (I will dig out the study, if required.)
On the subject of personality clashes, I don't tend to get involved and no-one has called me on anything so I can't really speak from within a frame of reference.![]()
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Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.
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Naming no names, obviously ... those sorts of details have to be kept strictly undercover.The Philosophy section on RDF was notorious for the size of some of the egos on show, and sometimes Politics and Current Affairs wasn't (isn't?) much better. There were people there who seemed to regard it as fate worse than death to actually lose an argument.
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No names, no pack drill, as the old saying goes ...Shaker wrote:Naming no names, obviously ... those sorts of details have to be kept strictly undercover.The Philosophy section on RDF was notorious for the size of some of the egos on show, and sometimes Politics and Current Affairs wasn't (isn't?) much better. There were people there who seemed to regard it as fate worse than death to actually lose an argument.
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No-one has annoyed me to the intensity of any real grudge in quite a long time - and most of the odd ones who have pissed me off to some extent have involved genuine clashes of personality, in that me and whatever person just hadn't been cut from similar cloth. While the more intense ill-feeling has gone towards those whom I perceive to be genuinely obnoxious, and/or bitchy and/or hypocritical and self-righteous bastards. I haven't encountered anything of the latter on this forum.
There was one member over on RDF whom I could hardly stand for a brief period, and I discussed the matter in one particular conversation with CJ in Leeds - who verified that this member was indeed the roaring little hypocrite that I thought they might have been - and that he, with a comrade on the forum, actually played a little game of "rumour ping-pong" with this particular member, and with great success. I actually considered warning another member of that forum about this member not being the best news they could possibly receieve, but I didn't want to feel like a bitch myself.
Generally speaking though - I don't get too worked up about my little notions of other people too much. I'm not the most easy person to offend in most contexts. I tend to just keep any ill-prejudices on the back burner and allow them to be re-shaped as I continue to interact with the folk - and I'm even willing to forgive and/or forget fairly quickly. I don't really do long-term grudges. Life's far too short to get all worked up about disliking others, and holding stuff against them forever.
On that note - a few people have said that I was a lot more easy-going in person than they thought I'd be.
There was one member over on RDF whom I could hardly stand for a brief period, and I discussed the matter in one particular conversation with CJ in Leeds - who verified that this member was indeed the roaring little hypocrite that I thought they might have been - and that he, with a comrade on the forum, actually played a little game of "rumour ping-pong" with this particular member, and with great success. I actually considered warning another member of that forum about this member not being the best news they could possibly receieve, but I didn't want to feel like a bitch myself.
Generally speaking though - I don't get too worked up about my little notions of other people too much. I'm not the most easy person to offend in most contexts. I tend to just keep any ill-prejudices on the back burner and allow them to be re-shaped as I continue to interact with the folk - and I'm even willing to forgive and/or forget fairly quickly. I don't really do long-term grudges. Life's far too short to get all worked up about disliking others, and holding stuff against them forever.
On that note - a few people have said that I was a lot more easy-going in person than they thought I'd be.
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And go the fools among.
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Gawdzilla wrote:"The only people that can annoy you are those to whom you have given that power. Don't give it and they have an impossible job."
It's not the people that annoy me, it's just the lack of life that annoys me.
It's far too... formal there now. In debates you could have a jovial laugh and riddle your posts with in-jokes and nobody would know the difference.
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That's very true!lordpasternack wrote: On that note - a few people have said that I was a lot more easy-going in person than they thought I'd be.

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I don't clash with anyone.
Although one person clashes with me but, this person clashes with everyone. I think he/she does it on purpose.
Although one person clashes with me but, this person clashes with everyone. I think he/she does it on purpose.
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Re: Forum Dynamics and personality clashes.
So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
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Careful CJ, Paco will be on your back for using snooty and pretentious words!CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
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I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
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I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.Charlou wrote:I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
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Getting annoyed at someone on a forum would be like getting annoyed at a tomato. Why should I care, really, what anyone posts? It is quite literally no skin off my nose, as you English say. I'll read the interesting posts and ignore the rest. Nothing here angers me. Except that idiot Clinton.
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I've not really had any serious issues with anyone... but if I find someone annoying, I just tend not to interact with them or their threads. I've never been one to hold a grudge or stay annoyed long, so after a while I usually forget what it was that I found annoying anyway.CJ wrote:I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.Charlou wrote:I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?
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it seems to me that RDF and here are very different for one good reason RDF is a forum for arguement ,the fact is most people do not
remove their egos before an arguement.For some people arguement is their sport and they get very good at it.For some of these people
every arguement is like a pro-tennis game , you can almost hear them grunt with satisfaction when they break serve.
This forum was set up because of a common need for somewhere to go OT that is we are like picnic in the park.Ok there may be some
'sport' played but we tend to play frisbe or just sit around and giggle .
As for me i dont think I'm that different in RL, maybe slightly because I'm here during weekdays and sober ,
I would be interested if any of the people who have met me would let me know if they thought I had an online personna much different to RL?
Clashes online I try and ignore them as much as is possible.RL is full of people I can't stand ,sometimes minimal polite interactions cannot be avoided on forums as in RL .
remove their egos before an arguement.For some people arguement is their sport and they get very good at it.For some of these people
every arguement is like a pro-tennis game , you can almost hear them grunt with satisfaction when they break serve.
This forum was set up because of a common need for somewhere to go OT that is we are like picnic in the park.Ok there may be some
'sport' played but we tend to play frisbe or just sit around and giggle .
As for me i dont think I'm that different in RL, maybe slightly because I'm here during weekdays and sober ,
I would be interested if any of the people who have met me would let me know if they thought I had an online personna much different to RL?
Clashes online I try and ignore them as much as is possible.RL is full of people I can't stand ,sometimes minimal polite interactions cannot be avoided on forums as in RL .

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Ah, okay.CJ wrote:I thought of my comment as a last resort after other avenues had been exhausted or dismissed as futile.Charlou wrote:I prefer discourse first, either via pm or in the In Depth forum (if both agreeable). If that doesn't resolve things then agree to take a break from discourse and otherwise post as normal. If it's apparent that one or both parties are continually being antagonistic or engaging in harrassment on the board, then either party can ask for moderation and the 'play nice' guideline can be invoked.CJ wrote:So we do have individual personal conflicts here and ignoring the individual that bugs one appears to be the pragmatic course of action?

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