So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

[Audley Strange]

Well humility forces me to not argue with that.

[Cormac]

Pappa-Are you trying to accomplish something by trolling PZ other than laughs at his expense?

Idk... my last post to him was a sincere request for genuine dialogue. I'm not sure what you're referring to as trolling? Perhaps my reply yesterday to his comment about shining the light on us cockroaches? If so I don't see how that's trolling. Perhaps my "sue PZ" thread? That was just silliness. I would hope nobody with any common sense could take that seriously.

I honestly don't see what I've posted about or to PZ that could be regarded as trolling.

Although, you and everyone else on this forum would have a strongly arguable defamation case against him, if we so chose.

I'm not suggesting we do. But this was actual defamation, and this is most definitely actionable.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

...I don't recall you posting very heavily in CES's threads on the Skepchics...

Did anyone? (other than CES)

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No!

[Pappa]

How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?

The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

I'll openly admit the post was lame, inappropriate and offensive. The intention however was ridicule, because I feel the public absurdity-fest over the past year is worthy of ridicule.

[lilandra]

No.

If he went on to said girls facebook page and a gang of them harrassed them by saying they should be raped, that would be trolling. I have experience in this where a forum I was moderating had a young woman on it who had only one ear and who a gang of people who disliked her started bombarding her with shit.

I have written a girl up for posting that another girl is a pig on her facebook, a lot of girls joined in. Someone told the girl or she wouldn't have found it. She was in tears that people she thought were her friends joined in mocking her. It wasn't even a comment on the level of wondering if she should be raped for being annoying.

[laklak]

I couldn't give a flying pig fuck what people post about me on teh Interwebz.

[Kristie]

No.

If he went on to said girls facebook page and a gang of them harrassed them by saying they should be raped, that would be trolling. I have experience in this where a forum I was moderating had a young woman on it who had only one ear and who a gang of people who disliked her started bombarding her with shit.

I have written a girl up for posting that another girl is a pig on her facebook, a lot of girls joined in. Someone told the girl or she wouldn't have found it. She was in tears that people she thought were her friends joined in mocking her. It wasn't even a comment on the level of wondering if she should be raped for being annoying.

I think that's completely different. She was upset that people that were supposedly her friends mocked her. I'm pretty sure Pappa never pretended to be pals with the Skepchicks.

[Coito ergo sum]

No.

If he went on to said girls facebook page and a gang of them harrassed them by saying they should be raped, that would be trolling. I have experience in this where a forum I was moderating had a young woman on it who had only one ear and who a gang of people who disliked her started bombarding her with shit.

I have written a girl up for posting that another girl is a pig on her facebook, a lot of girls joined in. Someone told the girl or she wouldn't have found it. She was in tears that people she thought were her friends joined in mocking her. It wasn't even a comment on the level of wondering if she should be raped for being annoying.

I think that's completely different. She was upset that people that were supposedly her friends mocked her. I'm pretty sure Pappa never pretended to be pals with the Skepchicks.

And, I gather she was a child. Once one reaches adulthood, being "in tears" over some mocking post or another is a bit, well, childish. Kind of like being in tears over a t-shirt that says "I am not a skepchick."

[Coito ergo sum]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Well, we don't have mind reading devices, so intent can only be inferred from the words posted.

[lilandra]

How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?

The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

I'll openly admit the post was lame, inappropriate and offensive. The intention however was ridicule, because I feel the public absurdity-fest over the past year is worthy of ridicule.

With rape threat jokes though it isn't just a matter of the lameness, inappropriateness, offensiveness, and or trivialization, there is also brutality that publicly humiliates the person/persons you are joking about.

[Ian]

Umm... so what?

EDIT: Really, so what?

Public figures are criticized all the time - sometimes for good reason, sometimes not. And the people who were criticized in this instance are public enough to draw such criticism. We atheists talk a lot about how Christians (or others) are so whiny and intolerant of criticism and having their ways or beliefs publicly humiliated, but some of us can't take the criticism ourselves. I say grow a thicker skin, or keep yourself out of the spotlight. You can't be in the public and immune to humiliating criticism at the same time.

[Kristie]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Well, we don't have mind reading devices, so intent can only be inferred from the words posted.

Did you lose yours again?!

[lilandra]

No.

If he went on to said girls facebook page and a gang of them harrassed them by saying they should be raped, that would be trolling. I have experience in this where a forum I was moderating had a young woman on it who had only one ear and who a gang of people who disliked her started bombarding her with shit.

I have written a girl up for posting that another girl is a pig on her facebook, a lot of girls joined in. Someone told the girl or she wouldn't have found it. She was in tears that people she thought were her friends joined in mocking her. It wasn't even a comment on the level of wondering if she should be raped for being annoying.

I think that's completely different. She was upset that people that were supposedly her friends mocked her. I'm pretty sure Pappa never pretended to be pals with the Skepchicks.

So members of their community are mocking them publicly with rape threat jokes, and the Skepchicks shouldn't be upset because they never pretended to be their friends?

[Coito ergo sum]

How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?

The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

I'll openly admit the post was lame, inappropriate and offensive. The intention however was ridicule, because I feel the public absurdity-fest over the past year is worthy of ridicule.

With rape threat jokes though it isn't just a matter of the lameness, inappropriateness, offensiveness, and or trivialization, there is also brutality that publicly humiliates the person/persons you are joking about.

Of course, it wasn't a threat. It was a question as to whether it wold be immoral.

Threat is a word that has a particular meaning. We ought not call it that if it is not.

[Coito ergo sum]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Well, we don't have mind reading devices, so intent can only be inferred from the words posted.

Did you lose yours again?!

I think it's in my pants.