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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Flora » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:18 pm

Could you provide a link to your post on Pharyngula?

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Mysturji » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:22 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Perhaps if you were to post this in the current incarnation of the never-ending open thread over at Pharyngula, it may grab some wider attention?


Just a thought.
It seems PZ has just commented on this issue - except he doesn't seem to understand the half of it.


Perhaps some folks here could enlighten him on Josh's behaviour.
We got 2 mentions, with links! :biggrin:
There's also a link to a post from RD that's not even an hour old as I type this, and he makes his position abundantly clear.
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Azathoth » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:25 pm

Heresiarch wrote:
Wondering Fart wrote:Yikes! OK perhaps someone ought to direct PZ to Peter's blog. I don't know if he will even take the time to read it.
PZ read it. He linked to it in the blog post on Pharyngula.
He put a link to here too. Man the lifeboats :panic:
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Valden » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:29 pm

Amazing letter Cali! :duel:

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by ozewiezeloose » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:56 pm

Send it, Cali!

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by virphen » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:09 pm

Cali, I have to add my voice to the developing chorus - if you really want RD to read it to the end, you need to tone it down.

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Post by Surendra Darathy » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:21 pm

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Viraldi » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:21 pm

Oh dear, I should have read this first, seeing that Cali compared the event to the fate of Library of Alexandria. I would've only left a statement of concurrence on your open letter, instead of revamping the comparison. :clap: :td: I feel right at home, again (almost).
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by The Dawktor » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:35 pm

Cali- well done- you have expressed ALL of our feelings- I hope RD reads it all! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Fallible » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:39 pm

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by life » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:45 pm

Cali, I've linked to this thread from the site in my sig, I hope it's okay with you?
If RD happens to stumble upon that site he might read your letter prior to the 'calmer' one...

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by QuarkyGideon » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:18 pm

I definately agree with the toning down of the ad homs. People have done that to dawkins all the time and the forum has successfully ripped them to shreds.

But indeed it gets straight to the point.

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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Galaxian » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:48 am

Calilasseia wrote:
pawiz wrote:Great letter. My only reservation is the venom directed at the "part-time cameraman and his side-kick yuppie". IMHO this detracts from the message and may elicit an emotional reaction from the Professor - he is on record stating his respect for Josh and his works, and to dismiss him with ad hominem attacks weakens your arguments.
Just my 2c.
The mere fact that I have been able to avoid needless and cheap ad hominems on the forums for 2½ years should inform him, should he be bothered to take note of this, that I don't rush into such things in writing lightly. It's a measure of my displeasure.
Great work Calilasseia! And if I haven't said so before; I reckon you were a top mod & meticulous poster.
I think EVERYTHING you said in your letter was appropriate, even the cameraman & yuppie phrase. When it all comes down to dust, some things just have to be said. We can't tip-toe on egg shells for ever.
And the letter was NOT too long. For a literate person with more than a 3 minute attention span, it's fine.
If Richard is offended or hasn't the time or interest to read it: Tough titties to him!

By the way; I've read his petulant rebuff: http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtop ... 0&t=110356
It just proves that Richard has missed the content of the complaints entirely. He's bamboozled himself! :td:
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by Mysturji » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:32 am

SERIOUSLY, dude!
Lose the Pinochet reference. :what:
No-one got tortured or shot. No-one died.
It's a credibility fucker. He'll think you're mad - or stoned - and discount the whole letter.
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Re: OPEN LETTER TO RICHARD DAWKINS

Post by goodboyCerberus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:36 am

Calilasseia, please look at what hackenslash wrote, if you haven't already.
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