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Behe's new paper.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:53 pm

[quote="Evolutionistrue Blog"[quote]
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The latest issue of The Quarterly Review of Biology has a paper by intelligent-design advocate Michael Behe, “Experimental evolution, loss-of-function mutations, and “the first rule of adaptive evolution.” It’s a review of several decades’ worth of experimental evolution in microbes (viruses and bacteria), with an eye toward revealing exactly what kinds of mutations have occurred in these studies. He concludes that microbial evolution in the lab has been based largely on either mutations that either 1) degrade or destroy functional elements like genes and promoter sequences, or 2) “modify” the function of pre-existing genetic elements so they do something different. What he does not find are the evolution of “new functional elements” (see below): new genes, new coding sequences, new promoter regions, and the like.

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Post by Tero » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:02 pm

So Behe and Lenski never talk?

All this talk of junk DNA: it is all junk DNA till you find a use for it.
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Re: Behe's new paper.

Post by GenesForLife » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:08 am

Gawdzilla wrote:[quote="Evolutionistrue Blog"
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The latest issue of The Quarterly Review of Biology has a paper by intelligent-design advocate Michael Behe, “Experimental evolution, loss-of-function mutations, and “the first rule of adaptive evolution.” It’s a review of several decades’ worth of experimental evolution in microbes (viruses and bacteria), with an eye toward revealing exactly what kinds of mutations have occurred in these studies. He concludes that microbial evolution in the lab has been based largely on either mutations that either 1) degrade or destroy functional elements like genes and promoter sequences, or 2) “modify” the function of pre-existing genetic elements so they do something different. What he does not find are the evolution of “new functional elements” (see below): new genes, new coding sequences, new promoter regions, and the like.

Balance of blog entry at URL above.
And that alone can produce a lot of diversity.

Transposition + new copy + mutation + aberrant function = new gene, a new functional element.
If an element adds a new function it is a new functional element.

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Re: Behe's new paper.

Post by Feck » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:37 am

So an extension of the ID lie .........give them examples of evolution and they say '..... but it hasn't made a NEW species!' and now give them examples of new genes and they say .....but it hasn't made a new functional group .'

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Post by Loki » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:03 am

Mmmm, interesting.

Mutation modifies existing genetic material.

New elements don't pop into existence out of thin air.

I can definitely see how that disproves evolution in favour of majic mystery-man. :jacket:
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Post by normal » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:15 pm

I hope all the copies are printed on soft paper
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