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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:34 pm

laklak wrote:My boss at Nissan originally worked on an IBM 1401 with 4K of RAM. When I worked for him we were running an MVS-ESA IBM 390 with 2 Gig of directly addressable RAM. He just could not wrap his head around it. He'd never seen a relational database either (we were running DB2). They needed a part-to-car DB, so I wrote a very simple SQL query to extract all part numbers for a particular model or all models that used a particular part number. He said "are you sure it will work every time"? Well, yeah, actually.
"As long as 1+1=2 is predictable, yes."

"Pass complete, no errors, press Esc to exit."

Do I want to let it run or bail out?
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by klr » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:53 pm

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laklak wrote:My boss at Nissan originally worked on an IBM 1401 with 4K of RAM. When I worked for him we were running an MVS-ESA IBM 390 with 2 Gig of directly addressable RAM. He just could not wrap his head around it. He'd never seen a relational database either (we were running DB2). They needed a part-to-car DB, so I wrote a very simple SQL query to extract all part numbers for a particular model or all models that used a particular part number. He said "are you sure it will work every time"? Well, yeah, actually.
"As long as 1+1=2 is predictable, yes."

"Pass complete, no errors, press Esc to exit."

Do I want to let it run or bail out?
I take it you asked it to run just one cycle instead of continuous repeat when asked at the beginning? I don't know if you can do anything more now without rebooting.

I'd run it at least once more to rule out memory as the cause.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:16 pm

No errors. I'll run it again tonight before I go to bed and let it chug until dawn.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Jason » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:38 pm

It's been years, but I used to use Sisoft Sandra a lot. Let it run the 'burn in' test for a day or two. Any weak components will fail.

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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by laklak » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:40 pm

PordFrefect wrote:It's been years, but I used to use Sisoft Sandra a lot. Let it run the 'burn in' test for a day or two. Any weak components will fail.
They're not "weak", they're "differently abled".
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by klr » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:43 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:No errors. I'll run it again tonight before I go to bed and let it chug until dawn.
Yup, that's the best strategy. If it cycles through for a few hours and nothing turns up, you can discount RAM as the problem.

That just leaves everything else.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:47 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:No errors. I'll run it again tonight before I go to bed and let it chug until dawn.
Yup, that's the best strategy. If it cycles through for a few hours and nothing turns up, you can discount RAM as the problem.

That just leaves everything else.
Time to save the gas cap and get a new car?
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by klr » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:53 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:No errors. I'll run it again tonight before I go to bed and let it chug until dawn.
Yup, that's the best strategy. If it cycles through for a few hours and nothing turns up, you can discount RAM as the problem.

That just leaves everything else.
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Hell no. You could always try and re-install Windows for a start. A bit of a drag, but it's an option.

If this test runs all night, it's a sign that the basic hardware is OK, although it still leaves an awful lot of things to look it. It's not testing the hard drive or the graphics adaptor for example.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:07 pm

I think the problem is with the graphics adapter anyway. It freezes with I run Palemoon. Flash keeps crashing. Videos are problematical.

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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by klr » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:25 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I think the problem is with the graphics adapter anyway. It freezes with I run Palemoon. Flash keeps crashing. Videos are problematical.

Anybody got a free tester for the GA?
Hmmmm ... that doesn't necessarily imply the fault is with the graphics card. I still have problems myself with Firefox, which rarely starts properly first time, and often has to revert to "safe" mode. But I don't blame these problems on the graphics card, despite the fact that I've had to disable the monitor power down option in the screen saver settings to stop the PC from sometimes crashing.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:28 pm

klr wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I think the problem is with the graphics adapter anyway. It freezes with I run Palemoon. Flash keeps crashing. Videos are problematical.

Anybody got a free tester for the GA?
Hmmmm ... that doesn't necessarily imply the fault is with the graphics card. I still have problems myself with Firefox, which rarely starts properly first time, and often has to revert to "safe" mode. But I don't blame these problems on the graphics card, despite the fact that I've had to disable the monitor power down option in the screen saver settings to stop the PC from sometimes crashing.
I don't get "safe" mode, I regular and increasingly lengthy freezes. If I touch nothing when it freezes it will come back eventually. But the more I click, the longer it takes to respond.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:28 pm

And anyway, I have to check something next if the memory's okay.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by klr » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:37 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
klr wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I think the problem is with the graphics adapter anyway. It freezes with I run Palemoon. Flash keeps crashing. Videos are problematical.

Anybody got a free tester for the GA?
Hmmmm ... that doesn't necessarily imply the fault is with the graphics card. I still have problems myself with Firefox, which rarely starts properly first time, and often has to revert to "safe" mode. But I don't blame these problems on the graphics card, despite the fact that I've had to disable the monitor power down option in the screen saver settings to stop the PC from sometimes crashing.
I don't get "safe" mode, I regular and increasingly lengthy freezes. If I touch nothing when it freezes it will come back eventually. But the more I click, the longer it takes to respond.
That definitely smells like a software issue ... possibly in conjunction with hardware that is in of itself, fault-free. It could be a wrong or corrupted driver, it could be a problem that Flash has with this card (no fault of the card) ... and so on.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:50 pm

It worked fine for two years.
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Re: Dear Ask-a-nerd: Computer "check up" programs?

Post by Jason » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:59 pm

If I had to hazard a guess I'd utterly contradict Kevin and say you have a faulty capacitor either on your mobo or graphics card which is fucking up your buffering. Mobo seems most likely.

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