Timebomb Game Thread

[Athene]

UT, justify the comment that I needed to be viewed !

because you're Feck.

yeah and when I'm viewed as town it will be 2 posts before a scum member chirps up with 'Well he must be the Don then !'
If I was the Don then I would have not known those people who (didn't read or )never got a town PM and I would be all for a mass outing of town roles .

This is interesting.

Interesting how?

[oblivion]

yeah I mentioned the meta, since much of the objective info won't be available. I'm just hoping it's replaced by other objective info that I don't quite grasp yet. The code info will be of use to us as individual players - we'll know if we were targeted with either a positive or negative effect, but that info won't be obvious to other players.

[Feck]

You could out if you had that sort of role ...but then I still doesn't prove much (you .or ! they could be lying)and it makes you a scum target ok you might personally Know they are scum , all sorts of set ups are possible ,but since there is no way to verify to everybody else (for example add 2 votes to player as a town role ) that you are what you say you are . The code names will become more obvious later in the game if people only get one vote per day (or night action against them )

OHHH just thought we are going to be playing hangman in the only Mafia game where people Don't get lynched . (pop quiz for the Merkins is that Irony ? )


Bolero got what I meant about Charlou It's fucking obvious if you are town ! any one who does not understand EXACTLY what I said and why IS SCUM .

[oblivion]

UT, justify the comment that I needed to be viewed !

because you're Feck.

yeah and when I'm viewed as town it will be 2 posts before a scum member chirps up with 'Well he must be the Don then !'
If I was the Don then I would have not known those people who (didn't read or )never got a town PM and I would be all for a mass outing of town roles .

This is interesting.

Interesting how?

the whole post seems a little forced, but the bolded in particular caught my eye.

[Feck]

I got bored with caps lock for emphasis ... and OB I know you have searched the META and I'm often more forceful when I'm scum BUT I'm talking sense while other people are proposing things that town could do if they really want to fuck up ! and so far I have spotted more than one person who didn't read the town PM .

Now when I say Charlou didn't read the town role PM and other players say 'I don't understand what do you mean? ' what conclusion do you think I should come to ? the fact YOU didn't seem to get it makes me worry about you .

[Gonzo]

I think this is a game where a day one massclaim should work. Scum will be gunning for the specials but it doesn't matter because they don't die until the end. Better to have them out in the open.

Aza why suggest a mass claim after the GM has specifically made it known that it the game mechanics are built to make doing so detrimental to the town?

[Feck]

I think this is a game where a day one massclaim should work. Scum will be gunning for the specials but it doesn't matter because they don't die until the end. Better to have them out in the open.

Aza why suggest a mass claim after the GM has specifically made it known that it the game mechanics are built to make doing so detrimental to the town?

also

[Athene]

because you're Feck.

yeah and when I'm viewed as town it will be 2 posts before a scum member chirps up with 'Well he must be the Don then !'
If I was the Don then I would have not known those people who (didn't read or )never got a town PM and I would be all for a mass outing of town roles .

This is interesting.

Interesting how?

the whole post seems a little forced, but the bolded in particular caught my eye.

What do you make of his interaction with Charlou and his reason for voting for her?

[gib]

Tell a lie, it was the advert for this game over there.

ok makes sense now, please don't tell any more lies!

[oblivion]

I got bored with caps lock for emphasis ... and OB I know you have searched the META and I'm often more forceful when I'm scum BUT I'm talking sense while other people are proposing things that town could do if they really want to fuck up ! and so far I have spotted more than one person who didn't read the town PM .

Now when I say Charlou didn't read the town role PM and other players say 'I don't understand what do you mean? ' what conclusion do you think I should come to ? the fact YOU didn't seem to get it makes me worry about you .

when I checked my role pm against what she posted about the win condition is, I had to laugh because although it means the same thing, it's not what my role PM says. But, I know that one of Zigmen's GM quirks is that he handcrafts every role PM, including each vanilla role, so that people can't quiz each other on the format.

And while it may be migraine induced bad memory, I did have to go back and actually look at my PM and confirm once the win condition topic came up. When I read my role PM I was confused about the code word stuff, and was even more confused by the PG (as originally written). That made a bigger impression on me than the win condition.

I'm a little skeptical of this sort of tell, especially in a Zigmen game, though you've hammered it (successfully and correctly) in at least one game we've played together.

[oblivion]

What do you make of his interaction with Charlou and his reason for voting for her?

It's the sort of thing I've seen him latch onto in the past. He helped catch out an indie in a recent game. I'm not as sure this time. The game design is pretty confusing, and I did have to go back and actually look at my role pm once this topic came up.

I keep thinking town must have something powerful under wraps, because it seems pretty difficult to on a cumulative basis nail every scum player with no lynches/card flips until the end.

[divagreen]

What do you make of his interaction with Charlou and his reason for voting for her?

It's the sort of thing I've seen him latch onto in the past. He helped catch out an indie in a recent game. I'm not as sure this time. The game design is pretty confusing, and I did have to go back and actually look at my role pm once this topic came up.

I keep thinking town must have something powerful under wraps, because it seems pretty difficult to on a cumulative basis nail every scum player with no lynches/card flips until the end.

Maybe we are heavy on specials? I don't know, the OP does not say.

I am thinking too, that there are at least four or five scum.

[divagreen]

I think this is a game where a day one massclaim should work. Scum will be gunning for the specials but it doesn't matter because they don't die until the end. Better to have them out in the open.

hmmm ... I'd considered that idea ... but dismissed it because scum can pile their votes on the specials ... but you're right in that that wouldn't affect the role of the specials through the game, it would only mean that the specials are among those town guaranteed to explode at end game. This would be a difficult decision for specials to make because all specials will need to agree without being able to discuss the idea in some way first for fear of drawing attention to themselves. There's also the possibility of false claims by scum, though those will soon become apparent through the system of voting. hmmm ...

OK, I've been doing some reading, and this caught my attention. I can't see how it would be a problem for town specials to out themselves.

although it would be dangerous to vote for them in the game, we don't know what sorts of night actions scum may have. As well as being able to pour some points on players, they may also be able to block town night actions.

things may be clearer after one night round.

Exactly. Their night actions are probably placing votes on other players. I'm not quite sure if we've got the answer yet to if the specials become armed, do their abilities stop working?

I am under the impression that the specials can continue to use their abilities up until the end? Wouldn't that be in the OP or the role PM?

[Gonzo]

Yes. Specials should be able to make an action every night.

[divagreen]

UT, justify the comment that I needed to be viewed !

because you're Feck.

yeah and when I'm viewed as town it will be 2 posts before a scum member chirps up with 'Well he must be the Don then !'
If I was the Don then I would have not known those people who (didn't read or )never got a town PM and I would be all for a mass outing of town roles .

I think that is exactly what a don, who knew that they would not be found guilty upon investigation until the end of the game, would say.

But you do seem to be working hard for town, so I am a little less suspicious of you.