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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by r.c » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:26 pm

amok wrote:I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to copy and paste various posts to back up this idea, and it's not particularly helpful unless we figure some other stuff out too, but here's what I think:

RC and DP might both be Town. One might be Town and one might be Scum. But there's just no way they're both Scum.
This means that amok viewed both of us and both of us turned town. Yet, she is not sure because one of us could be don.

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Discworld Day 5

Post by Don't Panic » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:32 pm

r.c wrote:
amok wrote:I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to copy and paste various posts to back up this idea, and it's not particularly helpful unless we figure some other stuff out too, but here's what I think:

RC and DP might both be Town. One might be Town and one might be Scum. But there's just no way they're both Scum.
This means that amok viewed both of us and both of us turned town. Yet, she is not sure because one of us could be don.
I'm town, how about you?
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by r.c » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:38 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
r.c wrote:
amok wrote:I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to copy and paste various posts to back up this idea, and it's not particularly helpful unless we figure some other stuff out too, but here's what I think:

RC and DP might both be Town. One might be Town and one might be Scum. But there's just no way they're both Scum.
This means that amok viewed both of us and both of us turned town. Yet, she is not sure because one of us could be don.
I'm town, how about you?
I cannot possibly fathom what anyone can get out of this question :) . I know UT asked the same question to amok.

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Re: Discworld Day 4

Post by r.c » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:53 pm

ksen, athene and feck claimed they were night blocked. It's unlikely that all three are scum. I think we can clear ksen and athene.

for me
barnett, gonzo, feck and DP are remaining. Right now the number one choice for me would be barnett.

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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by r.c » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:54 pm

r.c wrote:ksen, athene and feck claimed they were night blocked. It's unlikely that all three are scum. I think we can clear ksen and athene.

for me
barnett, gonzo, feck and DP are remaining. Right now the number one choice for me would be barnett.
Oops
I posted this on Day 4 instead of 5.

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Post by Don't Panic » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:01 pm

r.c wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
r.c wrote:
amok wrote:I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to copy and paste various posts to back up this idea, and it's not particularly helpful unless we figure some other stuff out too, but here's what I think:

RC and DP might both be Town. One might be Town and one might be Scum. But there's just no way they're both Scum.
This means that amok viewed both of us and both of us turned town. Yet, she is not sure because one of us could be don.
I'm town, how about you?
I cannot possibly fathom what anyone can get out of this question :) . I know UT asked the same question to amok.
Some people avoid answering cleay in case there is a truth seer type role.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Don't Panic » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:02 pm

*clearly
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by Feck » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:32 pm

Oh so why can we assume that Ksen and Athena are not scum ,because they were blocked ,but not extend it to me ?
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by r.c » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:54 pm

@ Feck
I wrote this on day 3.
r.c wrote:
Athene wrote: Somebody tried to block me last night. Flavour wise it looks like a scum block - I was frightened by some thing.
This from day 2
ksen wrote: Guys, I think I was blocked last night
In the absence of a counter claim can we provisionally clear Athene?
And this on day 4.
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After we agreed that ksen and athene are most likely town cause they was no counterclaim, I don't think this has much relevance now.
Feck wrote:Bollocks that hurt town, even thought he won with scum . I was blocked last night BTW
It could just be a clever scum tactic.
However, you are not high on my scum list. I was just pointing out a possibility. Also I'm curious to know who was blocked yesterday night

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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by Don't Panic » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:57 am

Feck wrote:Oh so why can we assume that Ksen and Athena are not scum ,because they were blocked ,but not extend it to me ?
Because then he can't set you up as scum tomorrow, I've been getting a weird town vibe from you all game. It's really disturbing.

RC is moving into the scum half of my list though, especially after Amok's post yesterday.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by Don't Panic » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:12 am

amok wrote:»Vote tally:

Irre 1 - Gonzo
Linus 1 - Ksen
Shizzle 1 - Linus
Ksen 1- Barnett
RC 2 - Athene, MZ
Gonzo 1 - Feck


I don't think it's Irre or Linus.

I trust Feck and Linus.

I thought it was RC, but I don't trust MZ.
amok wrote:»

I think so (while feeling a bit embarrassed about my earlier Athena/Athene/Volcano tangent - ha!).

Athene, in my mind, is cleared. Feck is also cleared (for me). Ksen is cleared, because, in my opinion, Zigmen cleared him.

Linus, in opinion, is really, really likely Town. An early post (which I don't want to put down here, for certain reasons), made me think that. RC is quite likely (but not entirely) cleared, for various reasons, not the least of which is sensible (though in my opinion misguided, because I know what I know) Scum hunting.

Barnett is semi-cleared. He might be being coached by a Scum Team, but ... really? I don't think so. If the Scum Team includes certain players, they'd coach him better than that.

That leaves...

Gonzo
MattShizzle
MZ
DP


In my opinion, three of those four are the most likely Scum.

Of course, everyone else has to put me in the equation, instead of themselves, if they're Town and I'm out to lunch on my reads on them.
amok wrote:»
Every time I think I'm onto something, it falls flat on its face. I've been reading the posts by author, and then picking "suspects" and trying to read them side-by-side, so to speak, but it's taking forever and I'm not satisifed it's going to get me anywhere in time.

I might even be going a little backwards. As far as I'm concerned at this stage, the only one completely cleared is Ksen. And myself, of course, but that's only to me.

I'd very much like to hear from Gonzo who he thought the OTHER Scum were, before Schizzle's lynch.
amok wrote:»
I'm going to have wait until tomorrow to copy and paste various posts to back up this idea, and it's not particularly helpful unless we figure some other stuff out too, but here's what I think:

RC and DP might both be Town. One might be Town and one might be Scum. But there's just no way they're both Scum.
These seem to be posts that might have breadcrumbs about the views.
Gawd wrote:»
And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by r.c » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:22 am

Does anyone think its reasonable to have 3 scum, a traitor and an SK in a 15 player game?

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Re: Discworld Day 4

Post by Zigmen » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:11 am

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 21#p985221

Day 5 is up.

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Post by Don't Panic » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:20 am

r.c wrote:Does anyone think its reasonable to have 3 scum, a traitor and an SK in a 15 player game?
From night 1, and from an experienced GM:
oblivion wrote:12 is on paper a perfect balance with 2 town specials and 3 scum. At 15 or 16, I'd either increase the scum team, add an indie, and/or add 1 or 2 town specials. HOWEVER, adding town specials has an exponential effect on town effectiveness, because the real value of specials (outside the usual power roles) is their ability to clear themselves. You have to either make outing the role dramatically decrease its effectiveness (think town bomb, etc.) or you have to think about passive/non-self-aware roles.
So 3 scum, a sk, and a traitor probably balances out pretty well.

You seem pretty determined to downplay the number of scum rc, with 3 today is make or break but 2 moves that to tomorrow, looks like you're trying to hoodwink us. You are getting more and more suspicious as this game goes on.

##vote rc##
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Discworld Day 5

Post by Feck » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:06 am

##vote rc## but i'd be happy to lynch Gonzo too
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