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by def » Mon May 16, 2011 2:33 pm
DennyB wrote:
my bold above
Def,
If you do flip town (and I don't think you will) then you win with town. Being lynched does not mean you lose as you should know.
Frankly I think this is a brillant ruse.
Didn't know town wins together... New site, new rules. I'm still trying to catch up with the game style here.
No worries. It's just a game (and time and attention span and stress...

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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 2:44 pm
I believe def's role claim. I don't think raven would have just posted what she did if def had not asked her to, and he'd only ask her to if he's telling the truth.
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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 2:45 pm
Linus wrote:I count 3 dead town specials and 6 special claims from players still in the game. I find it hard to believe that all of them are town. With the block and the fact that Charlou already claimed a protection-type role...
vote def
I had a single night action as bodyguard.
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by DennyB » Mon May 16, 2011 2:48 pm
charlou wrote:I believe def's role claim. I don't think raven would have just posted what she did if def had not asked her to, and he'd only ask her to if he's telling the truth.
Would be a brillant scum move, eh?
Why do you think there was no NK?
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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 2:51 pm
def wrote:CookieJon wrote:And anyway... does you story fit the facts as much as I'm giving you credit??
Lemme get this straight... I blocked you. You're claiming to be the doctor, who was blocked. Is that right?
So why do we think nobody was killed last night?
Here's a few possibilities:
-scum could recruit or kill, and down to a low number, they recruited
-knowing they were being hunted, they didn't kill for a night in order to ferment paranoia
-alternate roles were passed onto scum as other scum died, and they used a different role
But the best thing would be to ask the scum players
Ahhhh recruitment ....
I was trying to figure out the game balance ... There have been a large number of town role claims, both special and one off night actions. There was an indie (I noted in ob's post, she didn't confirm that Adenosine was an SK, just that he was an indie) ... Scum had a don, a kidnapper, a prostitute ...
Regarding recruitment, I'm wondering if there's a
traitor in play. It might explain the lack of a nightkill.
The Traitor is a role with a pro-Mafia alignment that is not actually in the Mafia family. The Traitor knows who is in the Mafia, but the Mafia do not know who the Traitor is. The Traitor uses through his or her vote to keep the Mafia from getting lynched and wins with the Mafia.
Traitors appears as 'innocent' to cops and sometimes have investigative abilities whose results will help the mafia learn who the town power roles are. But they cannot divulge that information privately until they are recruited by the Mafia, at which point they lose their investigative ability and become a mafia goon.
Most times, the Mafia has to give up their night-kill in order to recruit the Traitor. If the Mafia targets the Traitor for a night-kill, then they may either kill the Traitor or recruit the Traitor depending on the mod's predetermined choice.
In games where the Traitor cannot be recruited, the Traitor usually loses automatically if the "main" Mafia group is lynched or otherwise removed from the game.
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by praying » Mon May 16, 2011 3:03 pm
CookieJon wrote:def wrote:CookieJon wrote:And anyway... does you story fit the facts as much as I'm giving you credit??
Lemme get this straight... I blocked you. You're claiming to be the doctor, who was blocked. Is that right?
So why do we think nobody was killed last night?
Here's a few possibilities:
-scum could recruit or kill, and down to a low number, they recruited
-knowing they were being hunted, they didn't kill for a night in order to ferment paranoia
-alternate roles were passed onto scum as other scum died, and they used a different role
Geez you're good at making up scenarios aren't you!
No those scenarios are retarded in this point in the game.
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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 3:03 pm
DennyB wrote:charlou wrote:I believe def's role claim. I don't think raven would have just posted what she did if def had not asked her to, and he'd only ask her to if he's telling the truth.
Would be a brillant scum move, eh?
Why do you think there was no NK?
One possibility is the recruitment of a traitor (see my post above).
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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 3:05 pm
praying wrote:CookieJon wrote:def wrote:CookieJon wrote:And anyway... does you story fit the facts as much as I'm giving you credit??
Lemme get this straight... I blocked you. You're claiming to be the doctor, who was blocked. Is that right?
So why do we think nobody was killed last night?
Here's a few possibilities:
-scum could recruit or kill, and down to a low number, they recruited
-knowing they were being hunted, they didn't kill for a night in order to ferment paranoia
-alternate roles were passed onto scum as other scum died, and they used a different role
Geez you're good at making up scenarios aren't you!
No those scenarios are retarded in this point in the game.
What are your thoughts about the game at this point, praying?
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by praying » Mon May 16, 2011 3:07 pm
def wrote:DennyB wrote:
my bold above
Def,
If you do flip town (and I don't think you will) then you win with town. Being lynched does not mean you lose as you should know.
Frankly I think this is a brillant ruse.
Didn't know town wins together... New site, new rules. I'm still trying to catch up with the game style here.
No worries. It's just a game (and time and attention span and stress...

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Town is always together in mafia as far as I know.
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by praying » Mon May 16, 2011 3:09 pm
charlou wrote:I believe def's role claim. I don't think raven would have just posted what she did if def had not asked her to, and he'd only ask her to if he's telling the truth.
I haven't voted yet but I am inclined to think def is lying, just from having played with and in so many games of oblivion/raven. As for her posting, she had to acknowledge his PM, which is all she did.
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by praying » Mon May 16, 2011 3:11 pm
charlou wrote:praying wrote:CookieJon wrote:def wrote:CookieJon wrote:And anyway... does you story fit the facts as much as I'm giving you credit??
Lemme get this straight... I blocked you. You're claiming to be the doctor, who was blocked. Is that right?
So why do we think nobody was killed last night?
Here's a few possibilities:
-scum could recruit or kill, and down to a low number, they recruited
-knowing they were being hunted, they didn't kill for a night in order to ferment paranoia
-alternate roles were passed onto scum as other scum died, and they used a different role
Geez you're good at making up scenarios aren't you!
No those scenarios are retarded in this point in the game.
A I think def lis lying
b. I suspicious of feck, his watcher role does not seem to be working the way any watcher role I have encountered does, and his not sending ina night action after busting my chops for not sending mine in a game we are currently playing on tr seems odd
c. I am not sure of anyone else, I am not sure of anyone actually but feck and def have pinged the most for me.
What are your thoughts about the game at this point, praying?
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by charlou » Mon May 16, 2011 3:12 pm
def wrote:DennyB wrote:
my bold above
Def,
If you do flip town (and I don't think you will) then you win with town. Being lynched does not mean you lose as you should know.
Frankly I think this is a brillant ruse.
Didn't know town wins together... New site, new rules. I'm still trying to catch up with the game style here.
No worries. It's just a game (and time and attention span and stress...

)
def, where do you usually play mafia ... and how often have you played?
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by praying » Mon May 16, 2011 3:13 pm
charlou wrote:praying wrote:CookieJon wrote:def wrote:CookieJon wrote:And anyway... does you story fit the facts as much as I'm giving you credit??
Lemme get this straight... I blocked you. You're claiming to be the doctor, who was blocked. Is that right?
So why do we think nobody was killed last night?
Here's a few possibilities:
-scum could recruit or kill, and down to a low number, they recruited
-knowing they were being hunted, they didn't kill for a night in order to ferment paranoia
-alternate roles were passed onto scum as other scum died, and they used a different role
Geez you're good at making up scenarios aren't you!
No those scenarios are retarded in this point in the game.
What are your thoughts about the game at this point, praying?
A I think def lis lying
b. I suspicious of feck, his watcher role does not seem to be working the way any watcher role I have encountered does, and his not sending ina night action after busting my chops for not sending mine in a game we are currently playing on tr seems odd
c. I am not sure of anyone else, I am not sure of anyone actually but feck and def have pinged the most for me.
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by def » Mon May 16, 2011 3:15 pm
praying wrote:def wrote:DennyB wrote:
my bold above
Def,
If you do flip town (and I don't think you will) then you win with town. Being lynched does not mean you lose as you should know.
Frankly I think this is a brillant ruse.
Didn't know town wins together... New site, new rules. I'm still trying to catch up with the game style here.
No worries. It's just a game (and time and attention span and stress...

)

Town is always together in mafia as far as I know.
Then you don't know much

It's different depending on the site and the host.
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by def » Mon May 16, 2011 3:17 pm
charlou wrote:def, where do you usually play mafia ... and how often have you played?
I've played with you on RatSkep

I've played almost every game there since Masquerade.
And I started playing on a LEGO forum, of all places. The details of the rules are the same, but the discretion of the host puts a lot of things up in the air.
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