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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:52 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
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I've not seen you take any interest in free speech before. Tell me, is this in any way connected to your strong feelings aligning with one side of this middle-east conflict?
That's sweet, I didn't know you cared. You haven't been here much, so your observations don't amount to much. In fact I've regularly written on the topic here, going back for years.

I'm definitely opposed to the genocide that Israel has been perpetrating in Gaza. However, my primary interest in this particular case is how thoroughly it exposes the Trumpist regime for the lawless authoritarian goons that they are. I brought it up with you because I thought it could be a means to discover whether you actually mean it when you say free speech matters to you.

Just noting that past citations of the principle of free speech on your part (for instance claiming that you like Republicans because they're for free speech) are now exposed as empty posturing. Same for any future noise in the same vein.
Gotcha.

They are kicking someone out, who has social media accounts, and is not under a gag order or forced to silence.

No free speech issue. Might be an unfair deportation, but it certainly doesn't look at all like he isn't allowed to speak.

As to what you think of my seriousness around free speech, it isn't that important. It's interesting to see how stuck you are on the 'free speech' rant though.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

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With the release of the JFK, Epstein and Butler files coming soon, do you think we'll learn anything new about those events?
I think no, yes, yes.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:10 am

Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:52 am
As to what you think of my seriousness around free speech, it isn't that important.
Agreed, though I appreciate your candor. It's refreshing.
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It's interesting to see how stuck you are on the 'free speech' rant though.
It's a striking example of the naked authoritarianism Trump and his gang have chosen to adopt. You forget that in my posts on the topic I made a point of emphasizing the lack of due process as much as the violation of the right to free speech. Trump's government took a legal permanent resident of the country into custody without any legal basis and intends to bar him from living in the US, violating his right to a legal defense, a right protected in the Constitution of the US. As is the right to free speech, of course.

Again, if Biden had done the same to some bitch-ass wannabe Nazi shithead I think you'd be singing a different tune. If so we would have been in agreement. I agree with the ACLU, who defended the loser Illinois Nazis' right to march. But as you like to say, you do you.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:31 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:10 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:52 am
As to what you think of my seriousness around free speech, it isn't that important.
Agreed, though I appreciate your candor. It's refreshing.
Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:52 am
It's interesting to see how stuck you are on the 'free speech' rant though.
Again, if Biden had done the same to some bitch-ass wannabe Nazi shithead I think you'd be singing a different tune. If so we would have been in agreement. I agree with the ACLU, who defended the loser Illinois Nazis' right to march. But as you like to say, you do you.
I don't know hte illinois nazis you refer to. Easy to lose track when everyone who the left hates gets called 'nazi'. ;)

But I don't really care. He sounds like someone who asked for a visa to come and study, and instead was planting kids and organizing political protests you appreciate.

In other words, he'll be living, and speaking, about his experiences somewhere else. Maybe he can even find a country friendly to his political activities.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:57 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:31 am
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:10 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:52 am
It's interesting to see how stuck you are on the 'free speech' rant though.
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Again, if Biden had done the same to some bitch-ass wannabe Nazi shithead I think you'd be singing a different tune. If so we would have been in agreement. I agree with the ACLU, who defended the loser Illinois Nazis' right to march. But as you like to say, you do you.
I don't know hte illinois nazis you refer to. Easy to lose track when everyone who the left hates gets called 'nazi'. ;)
Yeah, I get the feeling you care about due process even less than you care about free speech, which is why it 'slipped your mind' and you continue to ignore the issue.

You could easily have found the Nazis who were defended by the ACLU if you wanted to learn something. It's a famous case in the defense of free speech. The ACLU has plenty of information about it, but I think the letterhead on the Nazis' application for a permit is informative. Also see: National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie
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But I don't really care. He sounds like someone who asked for a visa to come and study, and instead was planting kids and organizing political protests you appreciate.

In other words, he'll be living, and speaking, about his experiences somewhere else. Maybe he can even find a country friendly to his political activities.
You're correct, he came to the US on a student visa. He then went through the legal process to get permanent resident status. You're attempting to make it out that he was in the US under false pretence but that is definitely not the case. It's a feeble attempt at a red herring though. Regardless of his immigration status he has the same right to free speech and a fair trial as anybody else in the US, as has been repeatedly shown in this thread.

Thanks again for confirming just how little you care about free speech. It makes that aphorism in your signature wonderfully ironic: 'Free speech anywhere, is a threat to tyrants everywhere.' :tup:

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:27 pm

He's getting kicked out.

Is he prevented speaking, somehow? Or just getting evicted?
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:30 pm

Getting back to conspiracy theories, Dan Bongino is now 2nd in command at the FBI. Were any of the things he talked about on his (#1 or #2 ) show conspiracy theories?

The JFK files just dropped too. Anyone see what the CIA was up to back then? I'm waiting for memes, but early reports are a more full disclosure.

I still suspect the 'limited hangout' strategy, but then I'm a bit unaccepting...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:01 pm

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:29 am

Both threats to free speech exist.

I don't know James O'Brien, but if you'll tell me which country he is from, I can look up what he isn't allowed to say in public, and about which groups.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:37 am

Oh look, it's a conspiracy theory!http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst
NEW DELHI: Enforcement Directorate on Tuesday conducted conducted extensive searches on Open Society Foundations (OSF), promoted by US billionaire currency speculator and hedge fund operator George
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Hillary is looking well, for an old lady.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:50 am

Groundbreaking Findings on the Giza Pyramid Complex Could Re-Write Human History!

This should not be possible
This might not belong here, but I'm suspicious...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:05 am

Cunt wrote:Both threats to free speech exist.

I don't know James O'Brien, but if you'll tell me which country he is from, I can look up what he isn't allowed to say in public, and about which groups.
He's a UK conservative talk radio host, political pundit, and journalist. The pitch of his daily show is pro-free-speech, and critical of the left and the far-right. A centre-right classical liberal in European terms - pro-business and small state and not reflexively anti-Trump. His concern in the video clip over the state censorship of journalists should be seen in the context of his broader concerns about the governmental overreach of Sir Kier Starmer's Labour govt.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:56 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:05 am
Cunt wrote:Both threats to free speech exist.

I don't know James O'Brien, but if you'll tell me which country he is from, I can look up what he isn't allowed to say in public, and about which groups.
He's a UK conservative talk radio host, political pundit, and journalist. The pitch of his daily show is pro-free-speech, and critical of the left and the far-right. A centre-right classical liberal in European terms - pro-business and small state and not reflexively anti-Trump. His concern in the video clip over the state censorship of journalists should be seen in the context of his broader concerns about the governmental overreach of Sir Kier Starmer's Labour govt.
So he won't be able to interview Tommy Robinson, or dig into the subject that caused such a hilarious censorship reaction to TR.

He likely also cannot express complaints about islamification in countries that didn't start out that way, or complain about the knife crime surge, with demographic information.

Can he cover the other grooming scandal? The one where a teen was groomed and exploited by an adult over forty, then took on the leadership of France?
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