The Missing Link: Secret findings regarding Human Evolution

[Gawdzilla Sama]

From ATS, but not one of the loonies.

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
Now where would be if there wasn't a new 'missing link' claim every few years. There are 'gaps' where we are unable to class the missing adaptions and transitions that led to present humans.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/811972 ... ssing-link

Did hominoids evolve from Adapids. This is a 'missing link' argument in scientific circles regarding our development
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=WLE ... t&resnum=5

A super secret film is being made by legendary documentary maker Sir Richard Attenborough. Based on research headed by the President of the US Paleontological Society of a 37million year old Adapid.

A fossil found in Germany that is similar to but NOT a lemur is speculated to be the 'Missing link'. The small primate (adapid) is believed to have evolved into monkeys, apes and human beings.

Pro creationalists have yet to present the 'creation' skull or skeleton and this is the unfortunate bi product when you believe that Homo Sapiens were 'created' rather than evolved. Paleontological remains of hominoids have been able to time and again map the hominoid development tree, admittedly not finished yet (or for some time) but its is filling up.

The remains of a 1 year old female featured in Attenboroughs doco highlights that more and more intermediary adaptations are found and never has one 'original man/woman' been found.
The interest in this latest find in Germany is that scientists may be able to settle the argument as to where humans have evolved from:

‘I examined this skeleton. It is exceptionally complete and it is well-dated. We have kept it under wraps because you can’t blither about something until you understand it. We now understand it. It is going to advance our knowledge of evolution.’

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/811972 ... ssing-link

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Will this show definitively how humans evolved? How will Intelligent Design be able to claim the 'design' of modern homosapiens. Evolution defines the process of reproduction with adaptations, not the creation of life and will the skeleton support this?

Roger Thomas, secretary of the US Paleontological Society, said: ‘According to one group of thought, we are descended from the same primates as lemurs. Another argument is that hominids evolved from another small primate, the tarsiidae.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... ution.html

To understand ID, I have linked the following article, as a summary, they believe that change in evolution came from 'god direction' not biological evolvement as Darwin's theory propagates.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/dn/opin ... c9990.html

Is there a better explanation? Based upon our uniform experience, we know of only one type of cause that produces irreducibly complex systems – namely, intelligence. Indeed, whenever we encounter such complex systems – whether integrated circuits or internal combustion engines – and we know how they arose, invariably a designing intelligence played a role.

I suppose I am trying to grasp, do ID believers say that god touched every creature to instigate the change each time? and that oxygen, weather, food etc had nothing to do with it? As an example, the biological changes of modern Humans, such as fair hair in the north, and dark skin in the sunny south were 'touch and designed' and not a biological reaction?

I've never engaged in a debate on ID versus Evolution but this new find has got me thinking:
How can Evolutionists keep filling in the 'gaps' (there are still more to go), but the scientific evidence is simply ignored by ID believers?

Admittedly we are yet to see if this animal had features which link indirectly to higher primates, such as dry v wet nose, nails v claws, 4 incisor teeth in each jaw approximating to each other the midline, long foliate canines separated from the incisors by a diastema and blunt molars.

The secrecy and money involved in its 'unveiling' lead me to think they must think they are on to a sure thing, particularly as this is Sir R A's last doco and his lifelong work and reputation count on it, so I wait in anticipation.

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[cowiz]

Hang on a cotton pickin' minute. I was under the impression that our human ancestors evolved in Africa. What the fuck is this lemur type animal doing in Germany?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hang on a cotton pickin' minute. I was under the impression that our human ancestors evolved in Africa. What the fuck is this lemur type animal doing in Germany?

Ah, interesting question, isn't it? I look forward to the docco.

[Chinaski]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

[cowiz]

Hang on a cotton pickin' minute. I was under the impression that our human ancestors evolved in Africa. What the fuck is this lemur type animal doing in Germany?

Ah, interesting question, isn't it? I look forward to the docco.

It was probably visiting and laying its towels out to claim the best spots around the pool

[Chinaski]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

They're brothers

[cowiz]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

They're brothers

At least they got the picture of the correct Attenborough.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

They're brothers

At least they got the picture of the correct Attenborough.

So Richard is David's stunt double?

[cowiz]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

They're brothers

At least they got the picture of the correct Attenborough.

So Richard is David's stunt double?

I was talking about the lemur

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Isn't the guy's name David Attenborough, and not Richard?

The OP probably got his name mixed up with the actor, Sir Richard Attenborough, of "Jurassic Park" fame.

They're brothers

At least they got the picture of the correct Attenborough.

So Richard is David's stunt double?

I was talking about the lemur

Sir David Attenlemur?

[Animavore]

Another link for creationists to deny.

[klr]

A TV documentary about Ida will be broadcast on BBC One at 2100 BST, Tuesday, 26 May

... narrated by Sir David Attenborough no less, according to my 8-day cable TV guide. Marked for recording.

[Animavore]

Cool.

I didn't read that I just watched the vid for now. I'll read it when I'm finshed making these baguettes.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

As this follows on from the thread started by Zilla earlier, I have merged the two.