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Radioactive Wolves.
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"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
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Yup, on both counts.maiforpeace wrote:I'm pretty sure it's not the same program Pord. This is a new Nature program that premiered last Sunday.Seth wrote:Oh for fuck's sake, they offer TOURS of the region nowadays. You just have to sign a release and wear a dosimeter and travel with a minder and clean your shoes. It's not THAT much radiation anymore, anywhere outside of the containment. You don't want to live there, but you won't get a life-dose just visiting.PordFrefect wrote:I watched that a few years ago. Those naughty soldier boys made her strip and gave her a 'shower'.Schneibster wrote:There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
Seth, if you watch the program that's exactly what they seem to say...that, (so far) none of the wildlife is suffering adverse effects and that in fact, because humans are staying away for fear of radioactive poisoning the animals are thriving.
A hunter's paradise.
I'm sure "the wildlife" has suffered and that there are a lot of animal corpses out there, but as species, it's perfectly correct that radiation damage to DNA is self-eliminating from the gene pool. Those animals that were subject to such mutations, or to which fatal mutations happened, died. Probably in large numbers at first. But nature is hardy and animals tend to increase litter size in proportion to pack mortality, thus leaving things along long enough restored pack size.
The same would happen to humans in the event of global nuclear war. Many would die right away, many more would die in the first few years, but then the hardier of the species would quickly repopulate the planet.
Might suck to be YOU (or me) of course.
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As zombies of course.Seth wrote:The same would happen to humans in the event of global nuclear war. Many would die right away, many more would die in the first few years, but then the hardier of the species would quickly repopulate the planet.
No, not the same video.
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I for one also want to visit the site. I want to see what every city will be like after the Zombie breakout.
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Yep, seen those - I think they were the first widely disseminated images of the place that brought it back to the fore... very eerie photos, those.Schneibster wrote:There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
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It's the total number of Roentgens you get over years that would get you in that garden spot of Belarus. The researchers didn't wear protective clothing as long as they weren't digging into the ground.
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Yeah, especially the houses with dolls and bedding abandoned in them and so forth.Bella Fortuna wrote:Yep, seen those - I think they were the first widely disseminated images of the place that brought it back to the fore... very eerie photos, those.Schneibster wrote:There's one out there by a motorcyclist who carried a counter around to make sure she wasn't getting too much radiation, and took pictures of both the leftovers of civilization in the evacuated towns, and the forest and the wildlife, but with more concentration on the towns. If you can't find it yourself, I'll see if I have an old bookmark and if it's still online. Just ask.Bella Fortuna wrote:Watched this on TV a few days ago - fascinating, especially how most of the animals seem unchanged even after living with and ingesting huge amounts of radiation. And the whole ghost town angle is eerie and somehow hopeful, with nature reclaiming the land... I'd love to go on a photo expedition there.
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Just watched the vid.
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What do wolves eat in The Yukon?
What do wolves eat in the Ukraine?
What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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You can watch the entire 53 minute film here from the UK :
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... and Finland, thank you. We just watched it with Ronja.
I got the feeling the producers had some problems getting their priorities straight. Was that anti nuclear or anti communist propaganda? or a high song to the Soviet model cities or to wildlife. Mostly it seemed to be high
mixed up wit some good facts.
The radiation levels in the excluded zone are unacceptable to us, who expect to live to three times our natural age and often die of cancer, but it's really no surprise that this is not a problem for wild life, neither is a slightly higher rate of birth defects.
I got the feeling the producers had some problems getting their priorities straight. Was that anti nuclear or anti communist propaganda? or a high song to the Soviet model cities or to wildlife. Mostly it seemed to be high
The radiation levels in the excluded zone are unacceptable to us, who expect to live to three times our natural age and often die of cancer, but it's really no surprise that this is not a problem for wild life, neither is a slightly higher rate of birth defects.
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Is that what you're feeding them at the center?Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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Being somewhat distanced from the events I sailed over the possibly political aspects as filler. An "error" rate of 2-4% was quite remarkable, much higher had been expected.MiM wrote:... and Finland, thank you. We just watched it with Ronja.
I got the feeling the producers had some problems getting their priorities straight. Was that anti nuclear or anti communist propaganda? or a high song to the Soviet model cities or to wildlife. Mostly it seemed to be highmixed up wit some good facts.
The radiation levels in the excluded zone are unacceptable to us, who expect to live to three times our natural age and often die of cancer, but it's really no surprise that this is not a problem for wild life, neither is a slightly higher rate of birth defects.
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Well, they're not expected back in Texas until later today, so it will be while before anyone misses them.maiforpeace wrote:Is that what you're feeding them at the center?Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
What do wolves eat in Missouri?
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