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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:42 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:The Russians are considering using the French firm. This was sprung on us yesterday. Still waiting for State's position, and information about the firm. They could be golden, we just don't know at this time.
I'm shocked the State Department can't recommend you a list or Russian speaking retired workers that may be interested. With the Cold War over, they can't have nearly as much to do.
They are planning to farm out the work to University Language Departments as a research study and student work. If they're plan goes forward, anyway.
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:48 pm

Given the need for clarity in teaching material and exact translation of official histories, is it sensible to farm this out to students? Just thinking that a lot of trouble goes into the original documents and maybe nuance may be lost by "amateur" translators.
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

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Clinton Huxley wrote:Given the need for clarity in teaching material and exact translation of official histories, is it sensible to farm this out to students? Just thinking that a lot of trouble goes into the original documents and maybe nuance may be lost by "amateur" translators.
The Language Departments will be responsible for the quality of the work. And they will be required to consult with their History Departments.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:51 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:The Russians are considering using the French firm. This was sprung on us yesterday. Still waiting for State's position, and information about the firm. They could be golden, we just don't know at this time.
The very fact they contract a foreign company for such a job, rather than local, and that the job will be adding a useless and dangerous step to a process that could be done better by keeping simple tells me all I have to know.
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Gawdzilla wrote:The Russians are considering using the French firm. This was sprung on us yesterday. Still waiting for State's position, and information about the firm. They could be golden, we just don't know at this time.
The very fact they contract a foreign company for such a job, rather than local, and that the job will be adding a useless and dangerous step to a process that could be done better by keeping simple tells me all I have to know.
I've just been notified that "Officials at the highest level of the State Department" are looking into how this kink got added to a simple program. I think we'll find a link between Moscow and Paris somewhere in there, a monetary link.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:12 pm

Well, it's a classic kickback scheme.
I'm more used to see those with major stuff like armament and public works contracts, but the pattern is classic.

I even bet that the big package has been handed out to the firm in several smaller parts, just to make sure the sums involved remain low enough that the contract can be attributed discretionalrily (unless Russia still hasn't learned about democratic practices like auctioning public contracts)
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:30 pm

We. as private citizens, have the right to step out of the loop here, but I'd hesitate to do that as we wouldn't know who would be advising them in that case. I have a fair to middlin' knowledge of WWII, and Patrick is scary on the topic.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:43 pm

Should go through German, they are accurate. Besides, they know their Nazis.

2 languages: no sense at all.

A book takes half a year for a real translator. My wife did a Norwegian sports medicine book.

Google translate just does words. It does not sort subject verb and object so it is a waste for translators who at best work as fast as they can type.

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Post by Ronja » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:52 pm

Gawdzilla, if you don't want to post it, PM me the French company's info - I can at least look them up on the ProZ.com Blue Board. If they are a part of the ProZ.com network (the biggest that I know of for translators and interpreters) they will have a record of reputation, which paying members can check.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:53 pm

Ronja wrote:Gawdzilla, if you don't want to post it, PM me the French company's info - I can at least look them up on the ProZ.com Blue Board. If they are a part of the ProZ.com network (the biggest that I know of for translators and interpreters) they will have a record of reputation, which paying members can check.
I'm staying out of that end, it's not really our problem. Patrick and I are drawing a fine line around what we will do for this project. I will say that parties looking into the company can find no record of it in France as late as November.
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Ronja » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:55 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Ronja wrote:Gawdzilla, if you don't want to post it, PM me the French company's info - I can at least look them up on the ProZ.com Blue Board. If they are a part of the ProZ.com network (the biggest that I know of for translators and interpreters) they will have a record of reputation, which paying members can check.
I'm staying out of that end, it's not really our problem. Patrick and I are drawing a fine line around what we will do for this project. I will say that parties looking into the company can find no record of it in France as late as November.
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:00 pm

Attorney General advising now. I've never seen the government move this fast before.
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Tero » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:10 pm

With 10 translators doing nothing but this, I estimate 3-5 years. It will cost.

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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:14 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Attorney General advising now. I've never seen the government move this fast before.
Uh, what? In English please?
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Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:18 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:Attorney General advising now. I've never seen the government move this fast before.
Uh, what? In English please?
Okay, the Attorney General, the government's head lawyer, just sent us a note asking us not to discuss this matter in public while they look into it.

And this place ain't public.
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