So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

[lilandra]

How is the rape thread about Skepchicks trolling PZ?

The rape thread isn't directly trolling PZ. It is however directly trolling the Skpechicks.

It would be trolling them if he'd posted it on their website. Since it was posted here, where they are not, it was merely a bad joke that wasn't even meant to be viewed by them.

This forum can be seen by the public.

Then anyone on a public forum who's ever said anything offensive to anyone is a troll.

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

[Kristie]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

Maybe, but that's not what Pappa's thread was. It was a post intended to get some laughs.

[Wumbologist]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

If Pappa intended it as deliberately antagonizing, he picked a pretty poor place to post it and got really lucky when PZ came across it somehow.

[Bella Fortuna]

I don't think you can define all offensive language as trolling. A post intended for the purposes of deliberately antagonizing someone is.

If Pappa intended it as deliberately antagonizing, he picked a pretty poor place to post it and got really lucky when PZ came across it somehow.

+1

I dispute that was his intent anyway, but that's probably neither here nor there.

[lilandra]

What if someone posted that some girls in their school should be raped on their facebook page, and then others joined in and laughed at them. This is the person's own facebook page that normally the girls don't visit. Is that person trolling the girls?

[Ian]

Would it be immoral to beat up a Westboro Baptist Church member?


See what I just did there? I trolled the WBC.

[cogwheel]

What if someone posted that some girls in their school should be raped on their facebook page, and then others joined in and laughed at them. This is the person's own facebook page that normally the girls son't visit. Is that person trolling the girls?

Nope.

Well, maybe if he tagged them in the post, in which case they would be actively informed of the post's existence.

Also that's a horrible analogy. Pappa wasn't suggesting skepchicks should be raped.

[Audley Strange]

No.

If he went on to said girls facebook page and a gang of them harrassed them by saying they should be raped, that would be trolling. I have experience in this where a forum I was moderating had a young woman on it who had only one ear and who a gang of people who disliked her started bombarding her with shit.

The point of trolling is to provoke response from the victim for one's own gratification or amusement. People joining to berate this site is trolling. Them calling us cockroaches on this site is trolling. Them calling us rape enablers on their own site? Not trolling.

[Bella Fortuna]

Bingo.

[Audley Strange]

Oh and thanks folks. The Good Lady Strange also thanks you. I'm not sure she'll join because she's got her own things on the web.

If by allowing someone else to use my account I'm in breach of the FUA, I apologise.

[Bella Fortuna]

FUA

Seriously, she'd be most welcome here.

[Kristie]

Oh and thanks folks. The Good Lady Strange also thanks you. I'm not sure she'll join because she's got her own things on the web.

If by allowing someone else to use my account I'm in breach of the FUA, I apologise.

As long as she knows she's welcome! :biggrin

Oh, and you're banned!!!!

[laklak]

I'm not letting gratuitous cockroach bashing go unchallenged. Cockroaches are the victims here. Sure, we call them "filthy" or "unhygienic" but we are the ones forcing them to live under the refrigerator, without running water or the most primitive of sanitary facilities. We spray deadly nerve poisons on them, leave out poison bait, and routinely squish them. We kill their children EVERY DAY. And then we get upset when they dribble a bit of salmonella on food that we leave out overnight. I cannot believe the hypocrisy of this thread.

[Audley Strange]

No promises, I'll see if I can convince her. If I ever get my lazy ass away from this keyboard and come to a meet some day, she'll be coming.

I'm proud to know her, let alone be married to her.

Oh shit... that's right marriage as an enslavement tool of the Christian patriarchy to institutionalise rape.

I AM a bad man.

[Bella Fortuna]

But also fantastic.