That's a mighty big "what if?". Jared Diamond scale "what if?" in fact. Have you read Guns, Germs and Steel?Gawdzilla wrote:What if horses had survived in the Western Hemisphere?
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Nope. But I could modify the question.klr wrote:That's a mighty big "what if?". Jared Diamond scale "what if?" in fact. Have you read Guns, Germs and Steel?Gawdzilla wrote:What if horses had survived in the Western Hemisphere?
What if the Western Hemisphere had a domesticated draft animal that was commonly available? (Pre-Columbian)
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That's one of the big questions that Diamond tackles: The lack of suitable animals to be domesticated (and good crops) was an enormous handicap for American, sub-Saharan African and other peoples. There were other factors as well of course, hence the title of the book.Gawdzilla wrote:Nope. But I could modify the question.klr wrote:That's a mighty big "what if?". Jared Diamond scale "what if?" in fact. Have you read Guns, Germs and Steel?Gawdzilla wrote:What if horses had survived in the Western Hemisphere?
What if the Western Hemisphere had a domesticated draft animal that was commonly available? (Pre-Columbian)
Stepping down a level, I've always felt that Britain being an island was one of the underlying factors in the success of the British empire. Island => seafaring nation => ... 70% of world's surface is water => ...
But for now, it's

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Islanders are better sailors. People with grumpy neighbors are better diplomats. The Mongols were great horsemen because the Steppes is a horse paradise. Diamond made money saying these things?klr wrote:That's one of the big questions that Diamond tackles: The lack of suitable animals to be domesticated (and good crops) was an enormous handicap for American, sub-Saharan African and other peoples. There were other factors as well of course, hence the title of the book.
Stepping down a level, I've always felt that Britain being an island was one of the underlying factors in the success of the British empire. Island => seafaring nation => ... 70% of world's surface is water => ...
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Well, he said a lot more than thatGawdzilla wrote:Islanders are better sailors. People with grumpy neighbors are better diplomats. The Mongols were great horsemen because the Steppes is a horse paradise. Diamond made money saying these things?klr wrote:That's one of the big questions that Diamond tackles: The lack of suitable animals to be domesticated (and good crops) was an enormous handicap for American, sub-Saharan African and other peoples. There were other factors as well of course, hence the title of the book.
Stepping down a level, I've always felt that Britain being an island was one of the underlying factors in the success of the British empire. Island => seafaring nation => ... 70% of world's surface is water => ...
But for now, it'sfor me.


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What if...... Constantinople had fallen to the Arabs in the 7th Century......?
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What if Columbus had fallen off the edge of the world?
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The Empress Theodora covers all of that just by herself I think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodora_(6th_century)Clinton Huxley wrote:What if...... Constantinople had fallen to the Arabs in the 7th Century......?
Byzantine Empire - fascinating stuff. Glorious, tragic, brutal, ridiculous and a bit mad all rolled into one.
Now, what if the Franks had not defeated the Muslims at Tours in 732?

Or William the Conqueror wasn't, you know ...
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What if King Harold had been 6 inches shorter...?
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What if Lenin had been able to voice his disapproval of Stalin?
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...or if Stalin had been a nice bloke!?!born-again-atheist wrote:What if Lenin had been able to voice his disapproval of Stalin?
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Brian Peacock wrote:...or if Stalin had been a nice bloke!?!born-again-atheist wrote:What if Lenin had been able to voice his disapproval of Stalin?

Although being serious for a minute: I think we'd probably have never heard of him, and not just because he might never have been called 'Stalin'.
Odd how so many communist revolutionaries had assumed names: Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Molotov ...
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Recent news with kind of a tie-in to that one:Gawdzilla wrote:What if horses had survived in the Western Hemisphere?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7926235.stm
Horses were domesticated much earlier than previously thought, according to a team of researchers.
They found evidence suggesting that the animals were used by a culture in northern Kazakhstan 5,500 years ago.

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Less than a thousand years after the Creation? Gawd is truly great.Geoff wrote:Recent news with kind of a tie-in to that one:Gawdzilla wrote:What if horses had survived in the Western Hemisphere?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7926235.stm
Horses were domesticated much earlier than previously thought, according to a team of researchers.
They found evidence suggesting that the animals were used by a culture in northern Kazakhstan 5,500 years ago.

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What if the Schlieffen Plan had succeeded, and Germany was able to force a settlement to end the war on the western front in autumn, 1914?
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