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[Tero]

I can provide an example of PZ Myers writing eloquently on science. Namely:

Step Away From That Ladder

I've referred to it in some of my own past posts over at RDF and RatSkep.

It's not a difficult concept. I'm sure people in the 1800s generally thought that. I am a bit surprised many people still have it. Then again, there are people who have to be explained why manhole covers are round,

[Tero]

I can provide an example of PZ Myers writing eloquently on science. Namely:

Step Away From That Ladder

I've referred to it in some of my own past posts over at RDF and RatSkep.

It's not a difficult concept. I'm sure people in the 1800s generally thought that. I am a bit surprised many people still have it. Then again, there are people who have to be explained why manhole covers are round.

[Jason]

I can provide an example of PZ Myers writing eloquently on science. Namely:

Step Away From That Ladder

I've referred to it in some of my own past posts over at RDF and RatSkep.

It's not a difficult concept. I'm sure people in the 1800s generally thought that. I am a bit surprised many people still have it. Then again, there are people who have to be explained why manhole covers are round.

The blog post wasn't what I'd call eloquent by the way. His writing style is tedious and boring, but I suppose being able to endure it is part of the appeal.

[DaveDodo007]

I can provide an example of PZ Myers writing eloquently on science. Namely:

Step Away From That Ladder

I've referred to it in some of my own past posts over at RDF and RatSkep.

Yay bashing creationists I'm sure he had a good wank while shooting fish in a barrel.

[JimC]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

[DaveDodo007]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

No offence JimC you gin loving whore you but this is bullshit. What ever happens about this Dawkins' trouser snake stuff. The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not. P Z Myers on the other hand can go and fuck himself bigtime. I don't give a fuck about someones qualifications if they show themselves to be a dishonest lowlife scum sucking maggot. P Z has done this in spades and i have less respect for him than Fred Phleps(sp) because he should know better.

[klr]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

No offence JimC you gin loving whore you but this is bullshit. What ever happens about this Dawkins' trouser snake stuff. The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not. P Z Myers on the other hand can go and fuck himself bigtime. I don't give a fuck about someones qualifications if they show themselves to be a dishonest lowlife scum sucking maggot. P Z has done this in spades and i have less respect for him than Fred Phleps(sp) because he should know better.

I think you just went out of your way to give offence.

[hadespussercats]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

No offence JimC you gin loving whore you but this is bullshit. What ever happens about this Dawkins' trouser snake stuff. The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not. P Z Myers on the other hand can go and fuck himself bigtime. I don't give a fuck about someones qualifications if they show themselves to be a dishonest lowlife scum sucking maggot. P Z has done this in spades and i have less respect for him than Fred Phleps(sp) because he should know better.

I think you just went out of your way to give offence.

I'm a little confused, in that they seem to be expressing pretty much the same opinion about RD. So where's the bullshit? Or is it the idea that PZ has merit?

[Thinking Aloud]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

No offence JimC you gin loving whore you but this is bullshit. What ever happens about this Dawkins' trouser snake stuff. The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not. P Z Myers on the other hand can go and fuck himself bigtime. I don't give a fuck about someones qualifications if they show themselves to be a dishonest lowlife scum sucking maggot. P Z has done this in spades and i have less respect for him than Fred Phleps(sp) because he should know better.

I think you just went out of your way to give offence.

I'm a little confused, in that they seem to be expressing pretty much the same opinion about RD. So where's the bullshit? Or is it the idea that PZ has merit?

I think the latter.

[Red Celt]

The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not.

The Selfish Gene is the only book that actually changed the way that I look at the world. It was that monumental for me. I have 2 copies... the original one that I read (1992) and a more recent one that was signed. As for his private life (which some would like to see less private and more public)... I couldn't give a flying fuck who he's fucking, how he's fucking, or whether his sexual desires influence his decision-making process (like nearly every other human being on the planet). His original accomplishments remain undiminished - and far surpass the accomplishments (if any) of his detractors.

And PZ Myers is a dishonest, morally-bankrupt piece of shit.

[lordpasternack]

Okay, all is clear now. Certain individuals hold Dawkins on a pedestal, from which not even the most scrupulous substantive evidence of wrongdoing, grotesque stupidity and wilfull naïveté will ever cause him to fall.

Fine. Glad we got that out in the open - although I do wish it had come out sooner, so that I'd have known that I was wasting my time with such specific individuals right from the start - and so that they wouldn't have wasted their own time, given that we've established that all of their conclusions are foregone and set.

All I'll add is that it's a pity that Dawkins didn't radically alter your thinking when it comes to reason, critical thinking and rationalism. He has strong opinions about the importance of challenging authority, and ridiculing even the highest and mightiest, when they deserve to be ridiculed. About the importance of truth and honesty, even when it is uncomfortable and challenges the most respected people and cultural norms.

Although, I'm sure he'll forgive you this peccadillo since his own attitude to critical thinking is clearly more of a "do as I say, not as I do" type thing. And he's probably quite happy to believe, as you do, that his achievements exempt him from the very values he's supposed to have devoted his life to.

[Rum]

I think it is more a case of no fucks given that forgiving any transgressions, real or otherwise. I am certainly in that camp.

[Tero]

I've met many scientists with little morals. All accomplished chemists.

Darwin almost for sure had a level of agoraphobia in his old age. So what? Gave him more time to work.

What is special about atheism? What do we care about Dawkins the cultural Christian?

[Jason]

We just got served!

[DaveDodo007]

PZ Myers has a BSc in Zoology and a PhD in Neuroscience - and has been a professor/researcher all of his career. And when he writes on science, he does so well, and eloquently.

I don't agree with some of his political views. I said as much…

Fair point - in the same way, my admiration of RD as scientist is not diminished by any of the kerfuffle about the website or his general naivety...

No offence JimC you gin loving whore you but this is bullshit. What ever happens about this Dawkins' trouser snake stuff. The Selfish Gene was the inspiration for me to study biology and even after the shitstorm at RDF towers and the fact I have no time for leaders atheist or otherwise. Richard Dawkins will always have a special place in my heart whether he likes it or not. P Z Myers on the other hand can go and fuck himself bigtime. I don't give a fuck about someones qualifications if they show themselves to be a dishonest lowlife scum sucking maggot. P Z has done this in spades and i have less respect for him than Fred Phleps(sp) because he should know better.

I think you just went out of your way to give offence.

I thought that was the whole point of the 'no offence' opening, I'm sure JimC is man enough to handle it and if not there is still plenty of gin to smooth over the disagreement.