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Post by cronus » Thu May 23, 2013 4:18 am

RiverF wrote:I read the attackers are Somalian? What is their background? What happened to them to make them capable of behaving this way? Have they been damaged by a vicious war?

Religious dogma preying on vulnerable, unstable minds .. rationalising horrendous acts in the name of their tyrannical god.

The psychology of it is fascinating, frightening ...


I feel for the attacked man's family, friends and community. :(
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Post by cronus » Thu May 23, 2013 4:23 am

Falls right into Cameron's lap after a bad month in the press. He's been given a 'Falklands factor' if he plays this right and he knows it. Watch for the rhetoric and clampdown and focused heat on the Islam community between now and the election. :tup:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 23, 2013 5:13 am

They're fucking poms, you dolt. They may be ethnically Somalian, but that guy had a thick pommie accent.

Bella just posted an really interesting article about a mother who stepped in to stop them cutting him up more and potentially then turning on others in the crowd. It's amazing what people will do in a crisis situation.
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rEvolutionist wrote:They're fucking poms, you dolt. They may be ethnically Somalian, but that guy had a thick pommie accent.

Bella just posted an really interesting article about a mother who stepped in to stop them cutting him up more and potentially then turning on others in the crowd. It's amazing what people will do in a crisis situation.
'mericans must think that with Ford pulling out? or is that because downunder is out of gas big time? :coffee:
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What the hell are you talking about?
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rEvolutionist wrote:What the hell are you talking about?
It may be a confused reference to reports I heard earlier today that Ford has announced a timetable to cease manufacturing cars in Oz within 2 or 3 years. Many will be unemployed...
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Yeah, but I don't know what that has to do with a beheading in London. :think:
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Post by Collector1337 » Thu May 23, 2013 6:44 am

A meat clever is not a machete.

Why the fuck is the media so stupid?

Or do they just like to tell lies to sensationalize the news to make more money from the idiot sheeple who need the news to be sensationalized for them to pay attention or care?
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Post by Pappa » Thu May 23, 2013 6:52 am

klr wrote:According to BBC Newsnight, at least one of the the men woukld have been on the radar of the security services in the past.
They probably have thousands of Muslim men on their radar though.

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Post by Pappa » Thu May 23, 2013 6:57 am

RiverF wrote:I read the attackers are Somalian? What is their background? What happened to them to make them capable of behaving this way? Have they been damaged by a vicious war?

Religious dogma preying on vulnerable, unstable minds .. rationalising horrendous acts in the name of their tyrannical god.

The psychology of it is fascinating, frightening ...


I feel for the attacked man's family, friends and community. :(
There's been a violent civil war going on in Somalia for 30 years. There are lots of Somali refugees in the UK. We have a large Somali community in Cardiff. I became friendly with a few of them in a previous job, and they were (with few exceptions) the most militant Muslims I've met, more so than the Pakistani Muslims I've known.

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Pappa wrote:
RiverF wrote:I read the attackers are Somalian? What is their background? What happened to them to make them capable of behaving this way? Have they been damaged by a vicious war?

Religious dogma preying on vulnerable, unstable minds .. rationalising horrendous acts in the name of their tyrannical god.

The psychology of it is fascinating, frightening ...


I feel for the attacked man's family, friends and community. :(
There's been a violent civil war going on in Somalia for 30 years. There are lots of Somali refugees in the UK. We have a large Somali community in Cardiff. I became friendly with a few of them in a previous job, and they were (with few exceptions) the most militant Muslims I've met, more so than the Pakistani Muslims I've known.
Someone earlier in the thread spoke of him as having a definite Brit accent, so he's probably been in Britain since childhood - not a recent immigrant with emotional scars from their violent environment...
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Post by JimC » Thu May 23, 2013 7:08 am

Collector1337 wrote:A meat clever is not a machete.

Why the fuck is the media so stupid?

Or do they just like to tell lies to sensationalize the news to make more money from the idiot sheeple who need the news to be sensationalized for them to pay attention or care?
Typically sensationalised post from you, with the moronic "sheeple" term you so adore... :roll:

Yes, they are different, but they are both large, heavy knives with one sharp edge, a machete typically being longer......

Close enough so that, in practice, they can be used to the same effect
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Post by Collector1337 » Thu May 23, 2013 7:22 am

JimC wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:A meat clever is not a machete.

Why the fuck is the media so stupid?

Or do they just like to tell lies to sensationalize the news to make more money from the idiot sheeple who need the news to be sensationalized for them to pay attention or care?
"sheeple" term you so adore...
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JimC wrote:Yes, they are different, but they are both large,
A clever is actually shorter than the kitchen knife he also had.
JimC wrote:heavy knives with one sharp edge,
Machetes are made to be light, which makes them more practical and functional. A meat clever really isn't heavy either...
JimC wrote: a machete typically being longer......
You mean always longer. And a totally different shape.
JimC wrote:Close enough so that, in practice, they can be used to the same effect
Machete would have been a better choice.

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So, how are your knife laws working out for you in the UK?
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Post by Rum » Thu May 23, 2013 7:23 am

Rather better than your gun laws.

..wait..

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Post by JimC » Thu May 23, 2013 7:24 am

Collector1337 wrote:

So, how are your knife laws working out for you in the UK?
Your lack of observation astounds me.

What part of "Australia" escapes your mighty intellect?
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