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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance
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So you'd rather remain ignorant than be proved wrong about a point. How quinesssentially communist.redunderthebed wrote:I would rather eat my own shit than read *anything* by that fucking wanker.![]()


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Is Christopher a "fucking wanker" because he's a bad writer, or because you dislike the man's character? I find Chris Hitchens to be an immeasurably smart gentleman who has written some of the most enlightening books I've ever read. He was also a Marxist once upon a time, you know.I would rather eat my own shit than read *anything* by that fucking wanker.
If his view in Homage to Catalonia is anything to go by, he didn't have much time for communists at all.
I don't doubt that but animal farm isn't a critique of communism that all i was saying.
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How quinesssentially communist.![]()
*cough*Yeah, the whole writing off all politicians thing makes you look like a brainless ass, and kind of wipes out the respectability granted by your so-far cromulent points in this thread. Just sayin'.
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I dislike the man's character he turns up pissed to meetings of people he doesn't like for the sole reason to abuse people. Not to mention he is a traitor who just spews a load of right-wing crap now there is a show in Australia called lateline on ABC and his performances on it made me want to hit people and him specifically.Lozzer wrote:or because you dislike the man's character?I would rather eat my own shit than read *anything* by that fucking wanker.
If his view in Homage to Catalonia is anything to go by, he didn't have much time for communists at all.
I don't doubt that but animal farm isn't a critique of communism that all i was saying.
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A traitor? How, and a traitor to what? Fanatic leftist nut-jobbery? Just because he doen't fall in with your oh-so-advanced opinions doen't mean he's a traitor to anything. It means he's loyal to his own mind and reasoning. It's called independence of mind, something that far-leftists are unable to understand, being partial to nothing more mentally sophisticated than blame-the-rich mob hatred.Mr Bouquet wrote:Not to mention he is a traitor
What "right-wing crap"? Are you talking about the Iraq war? Because if you are, then it's one of the stupidest comments I've heard in weeks, simply writing the Iraq war off as some spastic right-wing blunderfest. Have you even bothered listening to his reasoning? Or were you so busy screaming "class traitor" at the screen that it all went right by you?Mr Bouquet wrote:who just spews a load of right-wing crap

Mr Bouquet wrote:now there is a show in Australia called lateline on ABC and his performances on it made me want to hit people and him specifically.
Why specifically? Is it because he doen't slavishly fall in with discredited crackpot economic theories anymore?
Entirely typical of the vacuous rabid outrage I have found to so well typify far leftists.

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Thanks Monf you gave me a good laugh. 

The Pope was today knocked down at the start of Christmas mass by a woman who hopped over the barriers. The woman was said to be, "Mentally unstable."Trolldor wrote:Ahh cardinal Pell. He's like a monkey after a lobotomy and three lines of cocaine.
Which is probably why she went unnoticed among a crowd of Christians.
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Mr Bouquet wrote:Thanks Monf you gave me a good laugh.



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A Godless Morality by Rev. David Anderson
this taught me at 10 yo that i don't have to belive in god to be a moral member of soicaty.
not that i am a moral person.
it's what you learn that counts not what you do with it
this taught me at 10 yo that i don't have to belive in god to be a moral member of soicaty.

not that i am a moral person.

it's what you learn that counts not what you do with it

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Manofnofaith wrote:Mr Bouquet wrote:Thanks Monf you gave me a good laugh.Umm... Read Adam Smith?
I don't know what to say. I was expecting to rip on your commie sympathies a little more. This isn't turning out like I planned.


The Pope was today knocked down at the start of Christmas mass by a woman who hopped over the barriers. The woman was said to be, "Mentally unstable."Trolldor wrote:Ahh cardinal Pell. He's like a monkey after a lobotomy and three lines of cocaine.
Which is probably why she went unnoticed among a crowd of Christians.
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BritComs.Lozzer wrote:Orwell was a socialist progressive and again, I agree. I'm reading the Communist Manifesto, and before that I read Orwell's novels.

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Manofnofaith wrote:A traitor? How, and a traitor to what? Fanatic leftist nut-jobbery? Just because he doen't fall in with your oh-so-advanced opinions doen't mean he's a traitor to anything. It means he's loyal to his own mind and reasoning. It's called independence of mind, something that far-leftists are unable to understand, being partial to nothing more mentally sophisticated than blame-the-rich mob hatred.Mr Bouquet wrote:Not to mention he is a traitor
What "right-wing crap"? Are you talking about the Iraq war? Because if you are, then it's one of the stupidest comments I've heard in weeks, simply writing the Iraq war off as some spastic right-wing blunderfest. Have you even bothered listening to his reasoning? Or were you so busy screaming "class traitor" at the screen that it all went right by you?Mr Bouquet wrote:who just spews a load of right-wing crap![]()
Mr Bouquet wrote:now there is a show in Australia called lateline on ABC and his performances on it made me want to hit people and him specifically.
Why specifically? Is it because he doen't slavishly fall in with discredited crackpot economic theories anymore?
Entirely typical of the vacuous rabid outrage I have found to so well typify far leftists.
You're grossly misrepresenting leftism my friend, if you want to build an argument on stereotypes then that's fine, but do it in a pub conversation.
And you seem to be presupposing that Hitchens is in fact a rightist, when no one particularly knows his political orientation--not even he knows it would seem.
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You don't bring up a strawman to shoot down the argument of someone who is fighting other strawmen.Lozzer wrote:And you seem to be presupposing that Hitchens is in fact a rightist, when no one particularly knows his political orientation--not even he knows it would seem.
REBUTTAL FAIL.
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wtf is a strawman in the first place i mean in a debating sense. 

The Pope was today knocked down at the start of Christmas mass by a woman who hopped over the barriers. The woman was said to be, "Mentally unstable."Trolldor wrote:Ahh cardinal Pell. He's like a monkey after a lobotomy and three lines of cocaine.
Which is probably why she went unnoticed among a crowd of Christians.
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When one in some way misrepresents one's opponent's argument, and attacks the misrepresented version, rather than the actual argument put forth one's opponent.Mr Bouquet wrote:wtf is a strawman in the first place i mean in a debating sense.
Eg. Person X puts forth a detailed argument on why abortion is ethical, and Person Y "rebuts" with vitriol on how infanticide is clearly immoral.
Person Y has misrepresented Person X's stance on abortion as a stance on killing full-term infants, and "rebutted" that misrepresented stance. They've erected a strawman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
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Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
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