DaveDodo007... I mean... Rationalskepticism,lol.

[pErvinalia]

Well hackenslash is suspended now though I do not know how long it is he give the impression that he was pro free speech
so I do not know what that rant was about. He is a member here so he might like to whine about ratskep here for a bit

Eight hundred children murdered and dumped in a septic tank in Galway. And at least as many again in a mass grave in Cork as
late as 1974. And hack has seen another one in Tipperary. And all because they were unmarried at the time of their pregnancy
And then Mick calmly questioning whether it was really the Church that was actually responsible for all of this. Crying out loud

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

What the fuck are you on about?? Foetus's aren't children.

Please.

How do you know they were murdered? Do you have evidence? Perhaps they are the dead babies of poor and destitute women. Maybe they were the product of illegal abortions. Maybe they just died of disease and hunger and they had no other place to put them.

Perhaps the facility was run by rogue "Catholics" who violated the church's teachings and doctrine.

Did you ever see the movie "The Cider House Rules?" What would you say about all those children buried out back and burned in the incinerator?

You just can't contain your glee and gloating at the prospect of having something to condemn a billion people's religion with even when you don't have all the facts, can you?

Atheist are hypocritical fuckwits if nothing else.

Says the atheist.

[JimC]

Seth wrote:

...the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?...

Meaningless propaganda from a right-wing christian prospective, utterly concerned with emotional spin, totally ignorant of biology...

[Seth]

I'm surprised to hear that Seth was bullied at school. I have never envisioned him as an alpha male, but he's strong willed and more intelligent in some aspects than most people. I wouldn't have expected that he got taken advantage of. But this probably could explain some of his crazy beliefs, particularly about guns and self-defence, that he holds now.

That you think self defense is "crazy" says all there is to say about your mental stability and rational judgment, which ain't much.

It's a funny old world. I was a bit of a bully in school (not the worst by far, but enough that I am ashamed of it) and I've turned out to be the peace loving (well, not really ) compassionate leftist.

Unless anybody faintly religious or to the right of Josef Stalin comes along, and then you switch quite easily and quickly into bully mode again.

Seth has turned into the bully.

Really? Care to name one person I've "bullied" in my entire life? Just one will do.

But I'm still proud that even though I'm not a bully any more (well, I am to conservatives, but they deserve it ),

Translation: "I'm a hypocritical lying sack of shit..."

I can still call on my aggressive side to defend myself.

Well, there's something good in everyone I suppose, even a Marxist useful idiot.

And one more thing... I grew out of being a bully.

No you didn't, you just fled from society to the safety of your hole in the ground and turned to bullying people on line, where they can't come kick your sorry ass.

No one ever actually put me in my place or anything.

I think the last two or three girls you've gone out with have put you in your place quite effectively. There's a reason girls don't hang out with men with narcissistic borderline personality disorders. A good reason.

I thankfully simply matured and grew out of it. My mature brain is thankfully a leftist altruistic compassionate brain. If only there were more like it (those parts, not the mental as shit parts that also inhabit my brain )

Except you didn't mature, not even a little, as evidenced by your frequent forays into personal invective and insult as a poor substitute for rational argument. You're just too much of a pussy to do it to someone's face because you're rightfully afraid that you will get your ticket punched, perhaps permanently.

[Mr.Samsa]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

[Seth]

Seth wrote:

...the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?...

Meaningless propaganda from a right-wing christian prospective, utterly concerned with emotional spin, totally ignorant of biology...

You make my point most excellently, thanks.

If children are killed by abortionists one second before they emerge from the birth canal they are "lumps of tissue," and can go in the garbage. But if the remains of dead children are found in a facility associated with Catholics, all of a sudden they are sanctified by Atheist anti-Catholic rhetoric without any evidence at all of how they came to be there or how they died.

Hypocritical of you, as usual.

[Seth]

That's an interesting quote(mine). That would appear to be a clear statement of intention to troll someone.

You should learn to distinguish between "troll" and "attack." Just because you get mad and stamp your feet like a three year old doesn't mean your opponent is "trolling" you, it just means you're acting like a child.

Huh? I think you need to reread the quote Hack made. He said he was going to hound him around the forum until he forces him to leave. That's trolling, plain and simple. That's not a proclamation that reasonable debate is going to ensue.

It's not trolling, it's attacking. Trolling is getting the person to violate the rules by provoking him subtly so he gets in trouble and you don't. You, of all people, should know this as I do it to you all the time and you respond with as much saliva as Pavlov's dogs.

[Seth]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both.

But you too make my point very aptly. Whether a child is "murdered" or is "disposable human tissue waste" depends entirely on who's doing the cutting-up of the children.

[Svartalf]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both, obviously.

[Mr.Samsa]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both.

But you too make my point very aptly. Whether a child is "murdered" or is "disposable human tissue waste" depends entirely on who's doing the cutting-up of the children.

Sure, in the same way "theft" depends entirely on the perception of the person whose property it was and the person who was taking it. But they are still words with definitions that can't be changed because of subjective feelings.

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both, obviously.

Bastards, we need to do something about this. I'm going to stand outside abortion clinics and call the cops to report a homicide every time a woman goes in there.

[JimC]

Seth wrote:

If children are killed by abortionists one second before they emerge from the birth canal they are "lumps of tissue," and can go in the garbage. But if the remains of dead children are found in a facility associated with Catholics, all of a sudden they are sanctified by Atheist anti-Catholic rhetoric without any evidence at all of how they came to be there or how they died.

Hypocritical of you, as usual.

Show me the evidence that babies are routinely aborted in the moments before a natural birth...

I'm talking only about the standard first trimester abortion, so nothing in your reply has any meaning, as usual...

[pErvinalia]

I'm surprised to hear that Seth was bullied at school. I have never envisioned him as an alpha male, but he's strong willed and more intelligent in some aspects than most people. I wouldn't have expected that he got taken advantage of. But this probably could explain some of his crazy beliefs, particularly about guns and self-defence, that he holds now.

That you think self defense is "crazy" says all there is to say about your mental stability and rational judgment, which ain't much.

I never said self defence was crazy. I said your beliefs about them were crazy. Perhaps some remedial english lessons would help you?

It's a funny old world. I was a bit of a bully in school (not the worst by far, but enough that I am ashamed of it) and I've turned out to be the peace loving (well, not really ) compassionate leftist.

Unless anybody faintly religious or to the right of Josef Stalin comes along, and then you switch quite easily and quickly into bully mode again.

Nah, just conservatives. And as I said, they deserve it. They are the greatest threat to the human race and everything on this planet. If they all died of ebola tomorrow, I wouldn't be particularly saddened.

Seth has turned into the bully.

Really? Care to name one person I've "bullied" in my entire life? Just one will do.

Lol. You are a MASSIVE forum bully. You relentlessly attack people and belittle people over and over and over. That's basically what you got banned from ratskep and rd.net for.

But I'm still proud that even though I'm not a bully any more (well, I am to conservatives, but they deserve it ),

Translation: "I'm a hypocritical lying sack of shit..."

I honestly believe that they are the greatest threat to existence. They need to be schooled hard every time the opportunity arises.

And one more thing... I grew out of being a bully.

No you didn't, you just fled from society to the safety of your hole in the ground and turned to bullying people on line, where they can't come kick your sorry ass.

I really don't bully people on line that much. Only conservatives, and I don't hang around with many conservatives, so they make up only a tiny number of the interactions I have online.

No one ever actually put me in my place or anything.

I think the last two or three girls you've gone out with have put you in your place quite effectively. There's a reason girls don't hang out with men with narcissistic borderline personality disorders. A good reason.

Possibly true (not the narcissistic bit). But to be clear, I never bullied any of the women I went out with. I am emotionally intense at times do to my mental brain. That has a downside, obviously.

I thankfully simply matured and grew out of it. My mature brain is thankfully a leftist altruistic compassionate brain. If only there were more like it (those parts, not the mental as shit parts that also inhabit my brain )

Except you didn't mature, not even a little, as evidenced by your frequent forays into personal invective and insult as a poor substitute for rational argument. You're just too much of a pussy to do it to someone's face because you're rightfully afraid that you will get your ticket punched, perhaps permanently.

Why would I be afraid? I wasn't at school where I was much bigger than the average adult (in fact my entire grade (class) on average were huge. There was probably about 15 out of 40 boys over 6 foot and half of those over 6 foot two). I have nothing to fear physically from the vast majority of the population. Fear has nothing to do with it. It was a realisation that bullying people for being "weak" is really cowardly and not inline with my progressive beliefs. Conservatives aren't weak. They are the dominant force in western society, and hold all the positions of power (except in Seth-Bizarro land where everyone but Glen Beck is a Marxist). When I bully conservatives, I'm not picking on a minority or a weak segment of society. I am facing down the dominant power structure in society and I'd gladly punch the shit out of half the conservatives in the world if my fists could take it.

[pErvinalia]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

They probably deal in facts, not rhetoric. Or, more likely, they are MARXISTS!!1!1ONE

[pErvinalia]

That's an interesting quote(mine). That would appear to be a clear statement of intention to troll someone.

You should learn to distinguish between "troll" and "attack." Just because you get mad and stamp your feet like a three year old doesn't mean your opponent is "trolling" you, it just means you're acting like a child.

Huh? I think you need to reread the quote Hack made. He said he was going to hound him around the forum until he forces him to leave. That's trolling, plain and simple. That's not a proclamation that reasonable debate is going to ensue.

It's not trolling, it's attacking. Trolling is getting the person to violate the rules by provoking him subtly so he gets in trouble and you don't. You, of all people, should know this as I do it to you all the time and you respond with as much saliva as Pavlov's dogs.

I think you'll find trolling has a wider definition than that, particularly at authoritarian central.

[pErvinalia]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both.

But you too make my point very aptly. Whether a child is "murdered" or is "disposable human tissue waste" depends entirely on who's doing the cutting-up of the children.

No, it depends on whether one is using a rational definition of "children" and "murder", or a hyperbolic religiously idiotic definition of those terms.

[Seth]

And I'm supposed to believe your faux outrage when you ignore the 40 million children murdered each year in the US alone?

Whoa that's crazy. And the DOJ only reports ~1500 of them each year? Are they corrupt or incompetent?

Both.

But you too make my point very aptly. Whether a child is "murdered" or is "disposable human tissue waste" depends entirely on who's doing the cutting-up of the children.

No, it depends on whether one is using a rational definition of "children" and "murder", or a hyperbolic religiously idiotic definition of those terms.

I agree, the Atheist definition of "child" is one of the most hyperbolically and religiously idiotic definitions I've ever seen. It defies comprehension how far away from science and reason Atheist religious True Believers have to go to rationalize their idiotically non-scientific definition of "children."