Puppy Left Traumatised After Scissors Attack

[Animavore]

And from what I gather, Clinton, young people who start down this track of animal torture are indeed very likely to commit later crimes against people...

Aye, that's how Jeffrey Dahmer put in his apprenticeship.

The lack of empathy for the suffering of others is a hallmark of serial killers. Living things are just objects to them. :pissed:

If the guy is a psychopath then it means the part of the brain that produces emotion, ie the amygdala is likely damaged or broke in some way usually showing up blue on a fMRI scan meaning that the person has brain damage.
If this is the case then this person can't understand or even know emotion through no fault of his own. Why this angers apparently rational people I just don't understand.
If a person had any other type of brain damage people would be all understanding and would be angry towards another if they tried to make fun or take advantage of them (think of Devs reaction to Lozzers post about the handicapped).
Logically, for me anyway, it would be make more sense to treat psychopaths with the same level of empathy and understanding (and then keep them out of harms way).

Anyway. I await your backlash.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And from what I gather, Clinton, young people who start down this track of animal torture are indeed very likely to commit later crimes against people...

Aye, that's how Jeffrey Dahmer put in his apprenticeship.

The lack of empathy for the suffering of others is a hallmark of serial killers. Living things are just objects to them. :pissed:

If the guy is a psychopath then it means the part of the brain that produces emotion, ie the amygdala is likely damaged or broke in some way usually showing up blue on a fMRI scan meaning that the person has brain damage.
If this is the case then this person can't understand or even know emotion through no fault of his own. Why this angers apparently rational people I just don't understand.
If a person had any other type of brain damage people would be all understanding and would be angry towards another if they tried to make fun or take advantage of them (think of Devs reaction to Lozzers post about the handicapped).
Logically, for me anyway, it would be make more sense to treat psychopaths with the same level of empathy and understanding (and then keep them out of harms way).

Anyway. I await your backlash.

It's not the lack of empathy that bothers me, it's the needless suffering. My hex-wife studied serial killers, and the worst ones were the ones that kept their victims for a while as a toy. They are the really scary ones.

[Animavore]

And from what I gather, Clinton, young people who start down this track of animal torture are indeed very likely to commit later crimes against people...

Aye, that's how Jeffrey Dahmer put in his apprenticeship.

The lack of empathy for the suffering of others is a hallmark of serial killers. Living things are just objects to them. :pissed:

If the guy is a psychopath then it means the part of the brain that produces emotion, ie the amygdala is likely damaged or broke in some way usually showing up blue on a fMRI scan meaning that the person has brain damage.
If this is the case then this person can't understand or even know emotion through no fault of his own. Why this angers apparently rational people I just don't understand.
If a person had any other type of brain damage people would be all understanding and would be angry towards another if they tried to make fun or take advantage of them (think of Devs reaction to Lozzers post about the handicapped).
Logically, for me anyway, it would be make more sense to treat psychopaths with the same level of empathy and understanding (and then keep them out of harms way).

Anyway. I await your backlash.

It's not the lack of empathy that bothers me, it's the needless suffering. My hex-wife studied serial killers, and the worst ones were the ones that kept their victims for a while as a toy. They are the really scary ones.

Scary shit alright. Its hard to imagine what its like without emotion and having pure reason. Gacy killed his first victim, a young teenage boy who he paid to have sex with, because he couldn't pay him and the boy threatened to tell everyone. Gacy had a reputation to keep in his town and it was totally rational for him to just knife him. He used to cut mice open with scissors and all.
The main reason I wouldn't waste too much anger on a psychopath is because they can't show remorse. How many people have done themselves more damage screaming for their death sentence, hoping to see them break down begging for forgiveness before they fry on the chair only to have the killer look at them coldly with no show of humanity. That's an image they'll remember the rest of their lives and without proper understanding of the psychopathic mind they won't be able to cope with the anger.

[charlou]

Anyway. I await your backlash.

No backlash here. Good posts.



LordP, I agree that MoNF's post should be returned (with a spoiler and warning added for the squeamish) as it was on topic. Staff are discussing it.

[Animavore]

Just out of interest.

Does anyone else think that the very fact that we can damage our brains, by accident or by fault at birth, and lose faculties like morals, reason, speech and even facial recognition, imply that these things begin and end with our physical brains and totally negate any supernatural source for these phenomena?

[JimC]

And from what I gather, Clinton, young people who start down this track of animal torture are indeed very likely to commit later crimes against people...

Aye, that's how Jeffrey Dahmer put in his apprenticeship.

The lack of empathy for the suffering of others is a hallmark of serial killers. Living things are just objects to them. :pissed:

If the guy is a psychopath then it means the part of the brain that produces emotion, ie the amygdala is likely damaged or broke in some way usually showing up blue on a fMRI scan meaning that the person has brain damage.
If this is the case then this person can't understand or even know emotion through no fault of his own. Why this angers apparently rational people I just don't understand.
If a person had any other type of brain damage people would be all understanding and would be angry towards another if they tried to make fun or take advantage of them (think of Devs reaction to Lozzers post about the handicapped).
Logically, for me anyway, it would be make more sense to treat psychopaths with the same level of empathy and understanding (and then keep them out of harms way).

Anyway. I await your backlash.

As long as the bit I colourised is adhered to WITHOUT ANY COMPROMISE I have no problems with this point of view...

[JimC]

Just out of interest.

Does anyone else think that the very fact that we can damage our brains, by accident or by fault at birth, and lose faculties like morals, reason, speech and even facial recognition, imply that these things begin and end with our physical brains and totally negate any supernatural source for these phenomena?

It is one of the many lines of evidence that incline me to that view...

[Animavore]

Just out of interest.

Does anyone else think that the very fact that we can damage our brains, by accident or by fault at birth, and lose faculties like morals, reason, speech and even facial recognition, imply that these things begin and end with our physical brains and totally negate any supernatural source for these phenomena?

It is one of the many lines of evidence that incline me to that view...

There's a debate with The Hitch and this Jewish guy and one of the audience during the Q&A asks "What is the best argument for the other persons side you've heard?" to which the Jewish guy goes on to talk about his mother losing her faculties through alzheimers I think it was and the fact that this degradation of the brain could change her personality suggested that these things came from the brain and not a soul. Funnnily he couldn't give an answer for this but, when Hitch gave the finely-tuned universe argument for the best one he'd heard he was able to find fault with it.

[charlou]

I think we have very strong evidence for the physical basis for personality and emotions, etc.


"The supernatural is what some people claim to be a loophole in reality." In otherwords, the contept concept is bollocks.





Edit: thpelling correcthion.

[Animavore]

By some mad coincidence I check my YouTube subscriptions his morning and see this video by cdk which backs my point.

[Animavore]

I think we have very strong evidence for the physical basis for personality and emotions, etc.


"The supernatural is what some people claim to be a loophole in reality." In otherwords, the contept is bollocks.

Do you have a lisp?

[charlou]

LordP, I agree that MoNF's post should be returned (with a spoiler and warning added for the squeamish) as it was on topic. Staff are discussing it.

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[Clinton Huxley]

Just out of interest.

Does anyone else think that the very fact that we can damage our brains, by accident or by fault at birth, and lose faculties like morals, reason, speech and even facial recognition, imply that these things begin and end with our physical brains and totally negate any supernatural source for these phenomena?

Absolutely. It's the human version of HAL losing his marbles in 2001, as modules get pulled from the racks. Usually, the theistically minded like to get all quantum at this point.

Lord, this reminds me of some of Undercover Elephants posts on RDF.......

[Feck]

I used to work at a dog sanctuary ,information was often shared with us from vets sspca police etc , Bad things sometimes were done to bad people
if they were sociopaths then they probably wouldn't understand my empathy for the animals they had tortured, I don't care It made ME feel good
sociopathy works both ways .

[Transgirlofnofaith]

And from what I gather, Clinton, young people who start down this track of animal torture are indeed very likely to commit later crimes against people...

Aye, that's how Jeffrey Dahmer put in his apprenticeship.

The lack of empathy for the suffering of others is a hallmark of serial killers. Living things are just objects to them. :pissed:

If the guy is a psychopath then it means the part of the brain that produces emotion, ie the amygdala is likely damaged or broke in some way usually showing up blue on a fMRI scan meaning that the person has brain damage.
If this is the case then this person can't understand or even know emotion through no fault of his own. Why this angers apparently rational people I just don't understand.
If a person had any other type of brain damage people would be all understanding and would be angry towards another if they tried to make fun or take advantage of them (think of Devs reaction to Lozzers post about the handicapped).
Logically, for me anyway, it would be make more sense to treat psychopaths with the same level of empathy and understanding (and then keep them out of harms way).

Anyway. I await your backlash.

I can answer in two words: Free choice. Even with no emotion, what is the logic behind torturing some poor fucker to death, other than sadism, and isn't that a sort of a emotional state? The reason I don't go into someone's house, tie them to their dining room table, and carve pieces off them with their own kitchen knives while they scream and bleed until they are dead isn't just that the concern over punishment is there. It's that it serves no long term purpose. There might be a different motivation if I was a sadist, but I'm not. Now, it's a somewhat normal human response to have the occasional violent fantasy or brief thought about doing this to someone who is the object of your rage, but not obsessing about it or actually going through with it. And certainly not a stranger. So even with bare logic, there is no excuse that can be given for this behaviour. And that's why I have an absolute lack of empathy for people who do this sort of thing.

On another note, can Humans be selectively sociopathic? That is, say, a group of soldiers killing the men and raping, torturing and killing the women in an Iraqi family, and then going back home and appearing completely normal, even caring and generous to strangers?