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by Seth » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:39 pm
Scott1328 wrote:Mr.Samsa wrote:Scott1328 wrote:
And then of course goal of my life: Mr Samsa to say to me: "you were right, I am a contrarian"
It's not an impossible goal: just work your way up through the ranks of the editors behind a major English dictionary, then redefine the meaning of 'contrarian'.
Otherwise I don't think I'd describe myself by a term that clearly doesn't apply.
well of course, if you ever were to agree, you would cease to be a contrarian.
I have to disagree...
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by Mr.Samsa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:52 pm
Scott1328 wrote:
well of course, if you ever were to agree, you would cease to be a contrarian.
That doesn't follow at all. Someone can never agree and still not be a contrarian. A contrarian is someone who takes up the contrary position for the sake of being contrary.
If everyone else is wrong and I disagree then I'm not a contrarian. In your definition it seems that if a creationist said that evolution was false, then a biologist would be a 'contrarian' for saying evolution is true!
It's okay, it's been clear for a while that you didn't know what the word meant and that's why you were incorrectly applying it to me.
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by Scott1328 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:53 pm
Since you always disagree, but you are not always right, you qualify as a contrarian. Either that or you can't take a joke.
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by Mr.Samsa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:59 pm
Scott1328 wrote:Since you always disagree, but you are not always right, you qualify as a contrarian.
But being right isn't part of the definition...
Scott1328 wrote:Either that or you can't take a joke.
Aren't jokes supposed to be funny? Or is this another change in definitions?
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by Scott1328 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:22 pm
Another point where you failed to agree.
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by Mr.Samsa » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:59 pm
To prove I'm not a contrarian, I have to accept that the definition of 'joke' is something that's not funny and I have to accept that the definition of contrarian is just anybody who has ever disagreed with a claim regardless of the truth of the claim?
I feel like this game is rigged.
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by Scott1328 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:07 am
Now you're getting it, that's why it's funny.
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by Seth » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:26 am
Mr.Samsa wrote:Scott1328 wrote:
well of course, if you ever were to agree, you would cease to be a contrarian.
That doesn't follow at all. Someone can never agree and still not be a contrarian. A contrarian is someone who takes up the contrary position for the sake of being contrary.
If everyone else is wrong and I disagree then I'm not a contrarian. In your definition it seems that if a creationist said that evolution was false, then a biologist would be a 'contrarian' for saying evolution is true!
It's okay, it's been clear for a while that you didn't know what the word meant and that's why you were incorrectly applying it to me.
That's what I've been telling everybody for decades now...I'm not a contrarian, they're just always wrong.
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by Mr.Samsa » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:16 am
Seth wrote:
That's what I've been telling everybody for decades now...I'm not a contrarian, they're just always wrong.
It seems strange to think that anyone would call you a contrarian. There are many names that people could call you that might apply but surely everyone sees that you believe what you say.
I do love the idea that you argue against liberals simply for the sake of being contrary though.
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by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:23 pm
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by DaveDodo007 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:18 pm
Oh yes he does.
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by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:26 pm
DaveDodo007 wrote:Oh yes he does.
That is a slippery slope. If he does once, he will clearly do it until he goes blind.
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by DaveDodo007 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:31 pm
Oi piss off, I'm trying to have the front page of The Wilder Web to be all about me.
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by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:39 pm
DaveDodo007 wrote:Oi piss off, I'm trying to have the front page of The Wilder Web to be all about me.
Ah, I see. That's what the thread necromancy is all about. Good luck with that.
Oops. I... did it again, didn't I?
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