Food Banks Don't Need Food; Food Banks Need Money

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Food Banks Don't Need Food; Food Banks Need Money

Post by Gonzo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:54 am

Posting this all over the place because it makes a lot of sense.

http://vancouversun.com/storyline/for-t ... -food-bank
It’s one of Canada’s most cherished holiday practices, and it may also be unwittingly robbing resources from some of Canada’s most important charities.

You’ve seen it at the office. You’ve seen it at the library. You’ve seen it at your kids’ Christmas recital. You’ve seen it championed by police, firefighters and municipal officials.

I’m talking, of course, about donating canned goods to holiday food drives.

Now don’t get me wrong. Donating to charity is a good thing, particularly during the holidays, when many charities budget for yuletide donations. But, the simple rules of economics are begging you: Give money to food banks, rather than food.

Canned goods have a particularly low rate of charitable return. They’re heavy, they’re awkward and they can be extremely difficult to fit into a family’s meal plan. Worst of all, the average consumer is buying those canned goods at four to five times the rock-bottom bulk price that can be obtained by the food bank itself.

That $1 you spent on tuna could have purchased $4 worth of tuna if put in the hands of a non-profit employee whose only job is to buy food as cheaply as possible. The savvy buyers at the Calgary Food Bank, for instance, promise they can stretch $1 into $5.

Probably the worst tragedy of the inefficient food drive is holiday events and theatre performances where organizers ask for canned food donations in lieu of selling tickets.

The better option, of course, is to keep selling tickets and donate the box office take to the food bank. By not doing this, these well-meaning organizers are effectively surrendering vast amounts of critically needed grocery money in exchange for heavy cardboard boxes filled with god knows what.

And then there’s the logistical nightmare when these boxes show up at the food bank’s loading dock.

Put yourself in the place of a food bank that has just accepted an anarchic 40-pound box of random food from an office fundraiser. It’s got pie filling, Kraft Dinner, beans, pumpkin and chick peas. All those food items need to be sorted, stored, inventoried and then shoehorned into the food bank’s distribution schedule.

It’s bad form to have low-income families eat nothing but creamed corn until the stocks run dry, so some items move faster than others.

Consider the herculean plight of the food bank warehouse manager, and it’s easy to imagine how a particularly unhelpful box of food could end up doing nothing but wasting a bunch of people’s time before it ends up shunted into a dumpster.

All this has been known for years, and yet the practice continues. There are a few reasons for this.

First, charities are extremely leery about telling people how to donate. Nothing alienates a good samaritan faster than watching them pull up in a cube van of donated food, only to suggest that “maybe next time they just cut a cheque.” When charities get picky, it’s human for would-be donors to think they don’t really need the help that bad.

Second, people don’t trust charities. Charities have particularly fragile brands, and it only takes one or two charitable scandals showing up in someone’s Facebook feed for them to start casting aspersions on our nation’s non-profits.

So, by donating a flat of condensed milk instead of $30, donors feel they are insulating themselves against any unseemly corruption.

This was something seen during the Fort McMurray fires. Many Albertans, leery of seeing monetary donations vanish down some kind of bureaucratic black hole, insisted instead on donating mountains of diapers and toiletries that got wasted.

And last, something that is probably the most uncomfortable fact about all this: It doesn’t feel as good to donate money. As much as we like to pretend that charitable giving is a selfless act, a lot of it is driven by the human need to feel special and magnanimous.

And as donations go, it’s much more satisfying to donate a minivan filled with Ragu than to send a $100 e-transfer.

Charities know this, and it’s another reason why they are so hesitant to pooh-pooh canned food drives, despite the extra logistical cost. Non-profits know that people get a buzz from loudly dropping $6 worth of cans into an office hamper, and they’re happy to channel that urge towards something good.

They also know it’s a tougher sell to convince schools and offices to merely pass the hat for the hungry, rather than big photo-worthy gestures like building towers of creamed corn.

So, if you feel your coworkers or students need something spherical and tactile in order to fire their benevolent instincts, then by all means hold a food drive, and remind people to stick to the always-needed staples like peanut butter and canned fish.

But if you’re a pragmatist just looking to vanquish as much poverty as possible with your disposable income, suck it up, key in your credit card number and enter the glorious world of anonymous, non-glamourous philanthropy.

That empty food hamper at your office needn’t be a mark of shame, but a badge of honour.
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Re: Food Banks Don't Need Food; Food Banks Need Money

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:25 am

50 lbs of rice $16 at Sam's club. Flour even cheaper. Dried beans a bit more.

So, even better than donating food or money to a food bank is donating advice! And best of all advice is free.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:13 pm

The real question is, why would they need privately run food banks in a civilized country which takes care of its poor? Hasn't Canada, Europe and other "civilized" countries gotten a handle on this already?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:23 pm

Because neoliberals are scared that if the poor are helped too much it creates dependency, disincentive, and will lead to slackers breeding and fucking up the gene pool!
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:40 pm

Surely not in Canada. The poor are taken care of properly there, aren't they? After all, if you are Canadian and travel the world, and get sick, we're told the Canadian health system will charter a plane for you, fly you from city to city for whatever tests you need, and cover all the costs of your procedures, for $0 out of pocket, no matter what. Surely a system that can do that doesn't need private charities to feed its citizens.... I'd imagine they'd already have drone service delivering fresh sushi and Chateaubriand to the peckish.
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Post by mistermack » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:26 pm

Food banks are shit.

I deposited some tins earlier this year, but the fuckers wouldn't let me withdraw any the following month.

They're a disgrace to the banking industry.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:50 pm

Forty Two, lefties start food banks so that they can point to the rising number of food banks as evidence that the government is neglecting the poor.

Admittedly, some people do fall through the cracks, because governments are state-controlled bureaucracies, and are therefore inherently inefficient at allocating resources.

Not all food banks are equal, of course. Some give to the needy and will only allocate with the signature of a person in authority. Whereas the food bank run by the local imam will give to anyone who is a good Muslim, so you see Nigerians loading up their Z4s with free food.
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Post by Feck » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:29 pm

This 'leftie' didn't help set up the local food co-op to point out anything ! We set it up so people had local access to food at wholesale prices. Never saw a Z4 In fact never saw one person loading up a car, ever . I did see a lot of families get better food though .
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:17 pm

A civilized country wouldn't need food banks to do that.
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Post by laklak » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:19 pm

I feed the poor. To my pitbulls.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:27 pm

Are there no prisons?

Are there no workhouses?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:47 pm

Cant have a good social service then.
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Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:49 pm

They have food banks in the Netherlands. Ergo, must have bad social services then.... QED.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:30 pm

Forty Two wrote:They have food banks in the Netherlands.
They need the extra food after smoking all that weed.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:17 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:Forty Two, lefties start food banks so that they can point to the rising number of food banks as evidence that the government is neglecting the poor.

Admittedly, some people do fall through the cracks, because governments are state-controlled bureaucracies, and are therefore inherently inefficient at allocating resources.

Not all food banks are equal, of course. Some give to the needy and will only allocate with the signature of a person in authority. Whereas the food bank run by the local imam will give to anyone who is a good Muslim, so you see Nigerians loading up their Z4s with free food.
I wonder why 'righties' have such an issue with feeding hungry people - particularly when they do nothing to establish the presumed 'leftie' conspiracy to maliciously feed the hungry - beyond just typing it out on their computers - and which, apparently, justifies their annoyance, or feeling affronted, or something?

You brought this up before Mr Dog, but you didn't pop back to qualify your remarks or support your assertions.
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