Food Banks Don't Need Food; Food Banks Need Money

[Hermit]

The real question is, why would they need privately run food banks in a civilized country which takes care of its poor? Hasn't Canada, Europe and other "civilized" countries gotten a handle on this already?

There are degrees of civilisation. Canada, for instance, is currently governed by the Liberal party. Certainly more civilised than being governed by reactionary fuckknuckles like yours is about to be because a plurality of your voters want it that way, and whose wish has been granted through the agency of you Electoral Collegiate system, but not as civilised as countries governed by parties who still fundamentally support capitalism but temper it with policies based on compassion, altruism and empathy, those qualities being collectively known as "civilised".

[pErvinalia]

Forty Two, lefties start food banks so that they can point to the rising number of food banks as evidence that the government is neglecting the poor.

I love this conspiracy bullshit that conservatives come up with regarding people who try to help others.

[pErvinalia]

This 'leftie' didn't help set up the local food co-op to point out anything ! We set it up so people had local access to food at wholesale prices. Never saw a Z4 In fact never saw one person loading up a car, ever . I did see a lot of families get better food though .

No, no, you are wrong because Daily Mail empty rhetoric told me so. You're a virtue signalling white knight cuck marxist liberal fascist freedum hating paedophile!

[pErvinalia]

They have food banks in the Netherlands.

They need the extra food after smoking all that weed.

[Hermit]

Are there no prisons?

Are there no workhouses?

Asks the man of the nation with the second highest incarceration rate in the world.

Again, it's a matter of degree. US incarceration rates have skyrocketed since Bill Clinton let go of the reins altogether that previous administrations held (albeit rather loosely) to tether the horse named neo-liberalism. On the other side of the pond countries like The Netherlands and Finland are closing prisons because they don't have enough criminals to fill them with.

Altogether, you seem to be under the impression that you are arguing with people who say the USA is 100% bad and whatever country they live in is 100% good. Please name them. Or at least name one.

[JimC]

For the sake of their health, food banks for the poor must only distribute brown rice, mung beans and organic brussel sprouts.

[Brian Peacock]

That's too much like the diet of middle-class yoghurt-knitters. Poptarts and dog food will do just fine.

[JimC]

Let them eat cake!

[Brian Peacock]

Food Banks: it's a bleeding conspiracy!

“It’s quite something when you give somebody a box of tampons and they break down in tears.” Nigel Webster, the project manager of the Bestwood and Bulwell food bank in Nottingham, says he has been warning for years about “period poverty” – when women and girls struggle to pay for basic sanitary products on a monthly basis, with significant impact on their hygiene, health and wellbeing.

“I first became aware of it when a middle-aged man asked in embarrassment for his teenage daughter,” Webster recalls. “A young father came in recently asking for maternity pads for his wife who had just given birth. If you’ve got no money to feed yourself then you’ve got no money to wipe your backside either.”

This is the hidden side of poverty, says Webster: struggling to feed your kids, heat your home, but also keep yourself clean. “I remember one woman said: ‘It’s not the hunger that gets us, it’s the lack of basic hygiene."...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... inequality

[pErvinalia]

Man, what a white knight virtue signalling cuckatoo!

[Brian Peacock]

"Cuckatoo"

[pErvinalia]

This stuff isn't funny. White guys are being persecuted!

[Forty Two]

The real question is, why would they need privately run food banks in a civilized country which takes care of its poor? Hasn't Canada, Europe and other "civilized" countries gotten a handle on this already?

There are degrees of civilisation. Canada, for instance, is currently governed by the Liberal party. Certainly more civilised than being governed by reactionary fuckknuckles like yours is about to be because a plurality of your voters want it that way, and whose wish has been granted through the agency of you Electoral Collegiate system, but not as civilised as countries governed by parties who still fundamentally support capitalism but temper it with policies based on compassion, altruism and empathy, those qualities being collectively known as "civilised".

This is a failure to understand the US system. Only the President was elected by the electoral college. Our "parliament" (which is the House of Representatives and the Senate) are elected by direct popular vote in their districts, just like in parliamentary systems. Like, in the UK, a member of parliament represents a district (in Canada, they call them "ridings"), and the people vote for the MP. In the US it's the same, the people vote for the Representative and the Senator who represents their district/state.

Only the President is elected by the Electoral College (mostly based on popular vote, but shifted a bit based on the concept of a federal system of states). But, in the UK and Canada and such, the head of government is elected by the members of parliament, so it would be as if our President were voted in by the House of Representatives (the majority party or majority coalition would get their way).

So, if we ran it the civilized way, our head of government would just be picked by the Republican controlled Congress.

You'll need to specify which countries you are referring to are the ones you say support capitalism, but with policies based on compassion, altruism and empathy. We can them compare the respective countries' policies with the US and see how they stack up. Most people outside the US don't know much about US domestic policy, and how it operates to care for the needy and such. I'd be glad to enlighten you.

[Forty Two]

Are there no prisons?

Are there no workhouses?

Asks the man of the nation with the second highest incarceration rate in the world.

Indeed, the US imprisons too many people. It's the war on drugs for you. But, then again, I'm for legalizing drugs and ending all prison sentences for non-violent drug offenses. If I had my druthers, prison would be exclusively for those who are violent.

Again, it's a matter of degree. US incarceration rates have skyrocketed since Bill Clinton let go of the reins altogether that previous administrations held (albeit rather loosely) to tether the horse named neo-liberalism. On the other side of the pond countries like The Netherlands and Finland are closing prisons because they don't have enough criminals to fill them with.

That's great. They also have very homogeneous populations, and extremely generous welfare states, which they are able to afford because they do not have the same international issues as a place like the US or even the UK.

Altogether, you seem to be under the impression that you are arguing with people who say the USA is 100% bad and whatever country they live in is 100% good. Please name them. Or at least name one.

I'm not of that impression at all. I am under the impression that I'm arguing with people who use dopey words like "civilized" and "uncivilized" when referring to first world countries, and use hyperbolic terminology when discussing the US when they tend to know fairly little about it. At the same time as they know fairly little about the US, they come across as rather egotistically claiming to know more than Americans do about the system in the US. In reality, people from these so-called civilized countries tend to drastically overestimate the accuracy of their knowledge of the US, and all the while seem to completely ignore the extant issues and problems in their own countries.

[Hermit]

Are there no prisons?

Are there no workhouses?

Asks the man of the nation with the second highest incarceration rate in the world.

Indeed, the US imprisons too many people.

That is precisely what I pointed out.

Now, you would have noticed that I am not a fan of the tu quoque argument, but it really takes the cake when someone from a nation with a steadily rising incarceration rate, where prisons have become a for profit growth industry and judges have been convicted of selling verdicts to that industry tries to imply that nations with a fraction of that incarceration rate (Finland's and Sweden's are less than than a tenth, Norway's is less than an eighth) and falling, are not all that much different, for they have prisons too.

Again, it's a matter of degree. US incarceration rates have skyrocketed since Bill Clinton let go of the reins altogether that previous administrations held (albeit rather loosely) to tether the horse named neo-liberalism. On the other side of the pond countries like The Netherlands and Finland are closing prisons because they don't have enough criminals to fill them with.

That's great. They also have very homogeneous populations ,

You mean your African Americans, Mexicans and so forth could not possibly have become assimilated into the rest of the population? Up to 400 years are not enough? Is diversity even supposed to be some sort of an excuse?

and extremely generous welfare states

How dare they! Fucking socialists!

which they are able to afford because they do not have the same international issues as a place like the US or even the UK.

International issues being what? Being responsible for over one third of global expenditure for military purposes to protect the interests of Exxon-Mobil et al? Keeping well over 130,000 of its active-duty personnel in hundreds of bases deployed overseas in case those interests are threatened one day? Nice ranking of priorities, that. Must protect the profits of the big rollers before helping those in need.

Altogether, you seem to be under the impression that you are arguing with people who say the USA is 100% bad and whatever country they live in is 100% good. Please name them. Or at least name one.

I'm not of that impression at all. I am under the impression that I'm arguing with people who use dopey words like "civilized" and "uncivilized" when referring to first world countries, and use hyperbolic terminology when discussing the US

That's a "No, but yes" then.

By the way, "civilised" is not a dopey word. It is a desirable state to aspire to. "Uncivilised" is not a dopey word either. I checked. The Thesaurus says it stands for "USA".