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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:58 pm

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I've read some of the Twitter files, and see a lot of assumption making (read conspiracy theorising) as analysis. The FBI is within their remit to target psyops against the US (which Russia has admitted doing). The assumption seems to be that the FBI is a hotbed of raging lefties targeting their political enemies - the right. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Argument from incredulity doesn't count.
So you haven't read them?

The FBI and OGA's hid Hunters laptop from the world, in the weeks leading up to the election. Was that 'within their remit'? Or 'a hotbed of raging lefties'?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:33 pm

The next episode of this disclosure is out now. If anyone thinks the censorship around covid could be important, you might want to read it. If, alternately, anyone wants to toe the government line, they had better get to discrediting the reporter right away. (I don't know this guys name even)
https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1 ... spodtniWQQ

Looks like both Trump and Biden used their twitter tools. Assuming it was all 'within their remit' and for the betterment of humankind would almost seem naive, if it weren't so darned popular. Or is that appearance of popularity possibly being managed by those same tools? (it IS)
15. There were three serious problems with Twitter’s process:

First, much of the content moderation was conducted by bots, trained on machine learning and AI – impressive in their engineering, yet still too crude for such nuanced work.
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16. Second, contractors, in places like the Philippines, also moderated content. They were given decision trees to aid in the process, but tasking non experts to adjudicate tweets on complex topics like myocarditis and mask efficacy data was destined for a significant error rate
Geez...I sure hope they don't find out the elevated experts were wrong, or that the deplatformed experts were right. That would throw the governments scienceyness into some doubt...

Getting back to the disclosures...
https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1 ... 0325326853
20. Exhibit A: Dr. Martin Kulldorff, an epidemiologist at Harvard Medical School, tweeted views at odds with US public health authorities and the American left, the political affiliation of nearly the entire staff at Twitter.
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21. Internal emails show an “intent to action” by a moderator, saying Kulldorff’s tweet violated the company’s Covid-19 misinformation policy and claimed he shared “false information.”
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22. But Kulldorff’s statement was an expert’s opinion—one which also happened to be in line with vaccine policies in numerous other countries. Yet it was deemed “false information” by Twitter moderators merely because it differed from CDC guidelines.
If the effects of this stayed on twitter, it wouldn't be a problem. Microblogs like twitter (or this one) are not going to 'move the needle', as they say. If, however, twitter DOES move that needle, then it might be important that the techbro's were silencing epidemiologists on the subject.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:48 pm

An expert opinion eh? Without more info that's just 'an opinion'.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:39 pm

Again conspiracy theorising - Twitter staff as a hot bed of lefties and this was political.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:22 am

Um - you know the disclosures have been published, right?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602387025855885312
Under pressure from hundreds of activist employees, Twitter deplatforms Trump, a sitting US President, even though they themselves acknowledge that he didn’t violate the rules:
So does 'hundreds of activist employees' count as a 'hotbed of lefties'? Or is it still tough to see from there?

As to 'expert opinions', these disclosures show that the government, meeting in secret with twitter leadership, was managing which experts were to be elevated, and which deplatformed.

So develops 'consensus science', as shared freely by anyone who agrees, all over twitter. Those who don't, well, they aren't science, and are silenced to provide better consensus.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:40 am

Really? Who exactly was deplatformed, and what had they actually been posting? Do you think everyone has a right to a Twitter account?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:10 am

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Really? Who exactly was deplatformed, and what had they actually been posting? Do you think everyone has a right to a Twitter account?
Those are excellent questions!

The disclosures answer some of them, and show that the government paid to manage some message. If it aligns perfectly with what I already believe, no problem though. It's obviously true consensus science!

Speaking of consensus, Elon can't even seem to get consensus with himself. I remember him spouting positive about the vaccine and tech. Then he acquired the crime-scene that is twitter, read the internal documents, and he seems to be in disaccord with himself.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601894132573605888
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If you wanted to know about who is paying to keep consensus science in the forefront, you might check this out.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Svartalf » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:48 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Really? Who exactly was deplatformed, and what had they actually been posting? Do you think everyone has a right to a Twitter account?
well, if rump has gotten his account back, why haven't I?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:59 am

Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:22 am
Um - you know the disclosures have been published, right?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602387025855885312
Under pressure from hundreds of activist employees, Twitter deplatforms Trump, a sitting US President, even though they themselves acknowledge that he didn’t violate the rules:
So does 'hundreds of activist employees' count as a 'hotbed of lefties'? Or is it still tough to see from there?
Twitter employed many thousands.
As to 'expert opinions', these disclosures show that the government, meeting in secret with twitter leadership, was managing which experts were to be elevated, and which deplatformed.
Can we see the evidence that the government was meeting concerning covid?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:28 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:59 am
Cunt wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:22 am
Um - you know the disclosures have been published, right?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1602387025855885312
Under pressure from hundreds of activist employees, Twitter deplatforms Trump, a sitting US President, even though they themselves acknowledge that he didn’t violate the rules:
So does 'hundreds of activist employees' count as a 'hotbed of lefties'? Or is it still tough to see from there?
Twitter employed many thousands.
Still tough to see, huh? I get it. It's fucking unbelievable.
As to 'expert opinions', these disclosures show that the government, meeting in secret with twitter leadership, was managing which experts were to be elevated, and which deplatformed.
Can we see the evidence that the government was meeting concerning covid?
I don't know. With influential activist employees by the hundreds pressuring their boss to deplatform a sitting president, you still don't seem to see a 'hotbed of lefties'. If I found the twitter link about that, and posted it already, I'm not sure it would help you 'see the evidence'.

Oh wait...look what I found upthread...
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The next episode of this disclosure is out now. If anyone thinks the censorship around covid could be important, you might want to read it. If, alternately, anyone wants to toe the government line, they had better get to discrediting the reporter right away. (I don't know this guys name even)
https://twitter.com/davidzweig/status/1 ... spodtniWQQ

Looks like both Trump and Biden used their twitter tools. Assuming it was all 'within their remit' and for the betterment of humankind would almost seem naive, if it weren't so darned popular. Or is that appearance of popularity possibly being managed by those same tools? (it IS)
15. There were three serious problems with Twitter’s process:

First, much of the content moderation was conducted by bots, trained on machine learning and AI – impressive in their engineering, yet still too crude for such nuanced work.
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16. Second, contractors, in places like the Philippines, also moderated content. They were given decision trees to aid in the process, but tasking non experts to adjudicate tweets on complex topics like myocarditis and mask efficacy data was destined for a significant error rate
Geez...I sure hope they don't find out the elevated experts were wrong, or that the deplatformed experts were right. That would throw the governments scienceyness into some doubt...
This link, which you skipped a few posts ago, could help. This is how it starts...
1. THREAD:

THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE

– By censoring info that was true but inconvenient to U.S. govt. policy
– By discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed
– By suppressing ordinary users, including some sharing the CDC’s *own data*
And remember - the Hunter Biden laptop was always real. The FBI knew that before pressing twitter to shut down the story.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:33 am

Still don't see any evidence of gov meeting with Twitter to suppress covid tweets.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:42 am

Someone on Twitter said it, so it must be true.

The idea that conservative voices are being surpressed is somewhat ironic.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Tero » Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:00 pm

Maybe Homeland Security should establish a Conspiracy General. This person would expose conspiracies and then report the results on Twitter.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:19 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:33 am
Still don't see any evidence of gov meeting with Twitter to suppress covid tweets.
Yes I KNOW.

I'm not surprised you don't see any evidence.

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Same as you couldn't see a 'hotbed of leftists'.

Next tell us the one where twitter didn't hide the Biden laptop, or pretend it was a russkie plant lol


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Someone on Twitter said it, so it must be true.

The idea that conservative voices are being surpressed is somewhat ironic.
Trump's voice wasn't surpressed?

Sure thing, champ. Do you also believe the laptop was a russian plant? Or have you accepted that bit of electioneering by the American government?

If you guys can't tell me what reality was around the Hunter Laptop, and the evidence found within it, then maybe this is too complex for you.

Was it really Hunters laptop? Was there evidence of crimes on it? Was it hidden by social media companies at the request of government?

Or are those too tough to answer clearly?
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