Democrats...let's move on

[Tero]

They will go back to taxing and spending of course. We can't be the greatest nation on earth without all the government funded research. Like vaccines and lithium batteries. Musk has no idea. He is no scientist. MAGA folk do not want any science. Unless it is cell phones. Or cancer cures.

[Brian Peacock]

All governments tax and spend. In fact, along with authorising banking institutions to create debt govt spending is the main way money gets into the real economy. The question is who gets taxed and who gets the money spent.

[pErvinalia]

Tax the poor!

[Brian Peacock]

And spend it on corporations!

[JimC]

Robin Hood is spinning in his grave!

[pErvinalia]

Do you think we'll ever see an end to this trickle down bullshit? Short of a revolution.

[Brian Peacock]

Sure. If we change the education model.

[Tero]

I'm using this thread, since the other Democrats thread opens "Trouble at the mill" instead. It has done this for me for years.

NYT

By David Leonhardt
But one major part of Biden’s agenda has a decent chance of surviving. It was the idea that animated much of the legislation he signed — namely, that the federal government should take a more active role in both assisting and regulating the private sector than it did for much of the previous half-century.

This idea has yet to acquire a simple name. The historian Gary Gerstle has called it the end of the neoliberal order. Felicia Wong and her colleagues at the Roosevelt Institute, a liberal think tank, have used the term “a new economics.” Jake Sullivan, a top Biden adviser, has referred to it as a new consensus. I’ve described it as part of a new centrism.

The philosophy didn’t originate with Biden, but he meaningfully shifted the country toward it, first as a candidate in 2020 and then as president. He moved the Democratic Party away from decades of support for trade liberalization and imposed tariffs on China. He pursued an industrial policy to build up sectors important to national security (like semiconductors) or future prosperity (like clean energy). And his administration was more aggressive about restraining corporate power than any in decades, blocking mergers, cracking down on “junk fees” and regulating drug prices.

When Biden delivers his farewell address from the Oval Office tonight, he will emphasize these issues.

[Brian Peacock]

I'm using this thread, since the other Democrats thread opens "Trouble at the mill" instead. It has done this for me for years.

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Have you tried the 'delete all cookies' option at the bottom of the front page? Or 'delete all site info/data' in your browser?

[Tero]

No. But...it does it on Windows and the phone with Safari. Two devices rwo browsers.

[Tero]

So much for Bernie socialism. We will never see it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... yT8hdaGvKg

[Brian Peacock]

The Dems are dead in the water. There's literally nowhere for them to go. Their strategy of waiting and hoping voters will punish the Trumpuglicans at the next election is misguided. Even if it happens they'll inherit a political and administrative landscape that'll oblige them to continue in the same vein, leaving them open to right-wing threats and menaces. Unless they carve out a completely new brand it doesn't matter how shit people's lives are in 4 years time the Dems are still going to cop the blame for the Trumpatarians' failings, immigrants and minorities are still going to be 'the problem', and the billionaires are still going to be bankrolling the King's narrative agenda.

[pErvinalia]

Democracy is dead in the water.

[Tero]

So much for facts. Reality. We spent too much time sharing cat videos? Did not catch enough of the audience?

Finnish teens and young males get news from Tik Tok 53%, newsppapers on line 34% of those responding. Must be the same here.

We have no way to communicate. The only way is to create a "democratic trump." Which is not really possible. No Democrat can talk to audiences at 8th grade level.

[Svartalf]

Tax the poor!

fuck it, I pay enough and more already.