NYTThe view from Nuuk
How does the saber-rattling play with the 57,000 people who live in Greenland?
Not well, report Jeffrey Gettleman and Maya Tekeli, who traveled to Nuuk, the capital, to find out. They discovered a kaleidoscope of feelings: shock, anger, confusion, humiliation, insult and, most of all, fear. No one they spoke to wants Greenland to be recolonized, and very few have any interest in joining the United States. One told them she was well aware of the holes in this country’s health care system and its gaping economic inequality.
I talked to Jeffrey about that yesterday. He told me the people he spoke to hated the idea that officials thousands of miles away might decide their fate. And they are worried about changing the way they live:
People here enjoy a highly Scandinavian standard of living, which means free health care, free education and a strong safety net. At the same time, they value their traditions. I can’t tell you how many people we’ve met who still hunt seals and reindeer and love ice fishing and spending hours outside, with their sled dogs or on their snowmobiles.
Jeffrey had just talked to a Greenlander selling secondhand clothes and knickknacks on the street in Nuuk. “Trump really wants it, he keeps saying he wants it, and if he comes what are we going to do?” the guy told him. Then he laughed. His name was Thue Norhsen. Jeffrey asked him if he wanted to become an American. “I like the way things are,” Norhsen said. “I don’t want to give that up.” Jeffrey said it was a refrain he had heard in Greenland over and over again.
A strategic hub
The Trump administration wants Greenland for a host of reasons, including its mineral resources, its size and its strategic location near Canada, Europe and even Russia via the Arctic Ocean. Among other things, it’s a good place to keep track of Chinese and Russian naval ships crossing new routes through melted ice. (It’s also a good place, because it’s so close to the North Pole, to track missiles.)
NATO countries like the United States also use those routes and gather intelligence to counter Russia. Trump has repeatedly berated and coerced the organization, demanding that its member nations pay more for defense. Now, his quest to take over Greenland, which as part of the Kingdom of Denmark is already under NATO’s protection, has raised concerns that he will shatter the alliance itself.
Trump said yesterday that NATO “should be leading the way for us to get” Greenland.
That view came with an implied threat: Without American military power, “NATO would not be an effective force or deterrent — Not even close!” he wrote on social media. “They know that, and so do I. NATO becomes far more formidable and effective with Greenland in the hands of the UNITED STATES.”
But what if Trump seizes the island by force? Then NATO has a different problem.
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The invasion of Greenland will have Trump at "police station" or Thule. NATO will be at Goose Bay, closer to SW Greenland, where they also have an air field.
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That's a nice Greenland you folks have there. Give me the Nobel Price or I take Greenland
GuardianDonald Trump links threats to seize Greenland to Nobel prize snub in letter
US president says he no longer feels the need to think ‘purely of peace’ in letter to Norwegian prime minister
Jon Henley Europe correspondent
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Donald Trump has linked his repeated threats to seize control of Greenland to the fact that he has not been awarded the Nobel peace prize in an extraordinary letter sent to the Norwegian prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre.
The US president said in the letter – the authenticity of which was confirmed by Støre to the Norwegian newspaper VG on Monday – that after failing to win the prize, he no longer felt the need to think “purely of peace”.
“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace,” he said, adding he could now “think about what is good and proper” for the US.
Støre told VG that the letter had “come in response to a short message to President Trump from me earlier in the day, on behalf of myself and the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb”.
Trump has ramped up his rhetoric against Greenland, a largely self-governing part of Denmark, in recent weeks, saying the US would take control of it “one way or the other”. He said on social media at the weekend: “Now it is time, and it will be done!!!”
The US president said he had “done more for Nato than anyone else since its founding, and now Nato should do something for the United States”. The world was “not secure unless we have Complete and Total control of Greenland”, he said.
Trump has rocked the EU and Nato by refusing to rule out military force to seize the strategically important, mineral-rich island, which is covered by many of the protections offered by the two organisations since Denmark is a member of both.
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