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Post by Svartalf » Wed Nov 04, 2026 4:07 am

capitalists are the sobs who put us in that crap in the first place
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Nov 04, 2026 7:31 am

pErvinalia wrote: ↑
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Don't worry, capitalism will save us.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 04, 2026 1:26 pm

Svartalf wrote: ↑
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capitalists are the sobs who put us in that crap in the first place
Wash your mouth out!
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only when I own oil wells
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Re: Carbon emission reduction: News and technology

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Nov 06, 2026 6:25 am

We're seeing the Tories and Reform turning to the same Heritage Foundation playbook as the Coalition, and over here there's nobody on the inside arguing against it because they've all been purged &/or retired.
Andrew McLachlan wrote:The Coalition is repudiating its longstanding policy positions on climate, even to the extent of disowning many of the structures it created when in government. Such thinking is not from the conservative tradition and has more in common with the radical. In my view, it is an abandonment of the Liberal traditions and values that have long sustained the party’s success.

The Coalition wants to remove net zero targets from Australian law, abolish the Net Zero Economy Agency, reform (read diminish) the Australian Renewable Energy Agency and the Clean Energy Finance Corporation as well as remove the electric vehicle tax concession, battery rebates and Scope 3 emission reporting requirements. It intends to cancel the annual Climate Change Statement to Parliament and remove the statutory mandate of the Climate Change Authority to advise on future targets...

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 06, 2026 1:27 pm

Thankfully they won't be near the levers of power for a long time. Real chance they will disintegrate after the next election.
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Post by JimC » Fri Nov 06, 2026 7:30 pm

pErvinalia wrote: ↑
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Thankfully they won't be near the levers of power for a long time. Real chance they will disintegrate after the next election.
I'm not sure federal labour will win the '28 election - they may need to form a minority government, relying on the Greens and independents for votes. And then there's One Nation...
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 06, 2026 11:29 pm

Might depend where Coalition voters preference.
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Post by macdoc » Sat Nov 07, 2026 7:04 am

Minority govs often accomplish more than majority govs - they have to be focused and make deals or risk a quick election.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Nov 07, 2026 9:47 am

Yep.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Nov 07, 2026 10:40 am

What complection of minority govt is likely to prioritise climate action against, say, increasing revenues from fossil exports?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Nov 07, 2026 11:31 am

The so-called 'Teal independents'. They are all pro climate action and will likely expand their membership in the next election as people desert the major parties.
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Post by macdoc » Sat Nov 07, 2026 3:00 pm

The Teals are all centrist women MPs with common sense approach - they would be ideal offsets/balance of power to the more extreme wings of the majors - especially the right wing in Aus which is somewhat overpopulated with whack jobs. The Teals are not idealogues.

Australia is doing fine on the climate front, most of its coal goes to China and most is not thermal coal.
Coal thermal plants are fading dinosaurs all slated to close.
It would be nice if Snowy River had come in on time and on budget. :banghead:
But uptake of solar transport and homes cannot be faulted and more coming.

It's not an either/or decision.
Like Canada, Australian uses its resource income to fund climate projects.
Canada has nuclear and hydro, Australia solar and hydro as foundations for moving to carbon neutral.
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Post by macdoc » Sun Nov 08, 2026 1:02 am

Then there is China :shock:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Nov 08, 2026 7:28 am

pErvinalia wrote:The so-called 'Teal independents'. They are all pro climate action and will likely expand their membership in the next election as people desert the major parties.
Do you see a Teal-led minority govt as a realistic possibility? Can you actually see them gaining a mandate to reduce or cut fossil extraction/export subsidies or even leaving the coal in the ground?

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