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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by FBM » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:46 pm

Peter Harrison wrote:Ok, I'm not going to answer "how does this trick work?" questions. The main reason is that the whole thread will turn into just that over and over again. Very boring...
My bad. I should have put myself in your shoes for a moment. :oops:
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Feck » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:51 pm

"The easiest people to hypnotise are the ones who say to me, "this won't work on me by the way, I have a strong mind." It always works on them."


Now that sounds like a challenge :hehe: :hehe:
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:56 pm

Feck wrote:"The easiest people to hypnotise are the ones who say to me, "this won't work on me by the way, I have a strong mind." It always works on them."


Now that sounds like a challenge :hehe: :hehe:
Me too. I have serious doubts abut anyone being able to do this to me regardless of what was written above. Not so much to do with having a "strong mind" but more because I have a bit of an idea on how it works any attempts to lead me would be met with resistance.
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by GeneticJen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:59 pm

Ah, you're perfect. :shiver: :hehe:

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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:00 pm

Peter Harrison wrote:Ah, you're perfect. :shiver: :hehe:
Doubt it. As soon as you try to lead me I'm going to know what you're doing and why. Its not so much as not being able to be hypnotised as simply not allowing it.
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by GeneticJen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:04 pm

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Peter Harrison wrote:Ah, you're perfect. :shiver: :hehe:
Doubt it. As soon as you try to lead me I'm going to know what you're doing and why. Its not so much as not being able to be hypnotised as simply not allowing it.
Your choice of words also make it sound like I'm going to control you in some way. Actually, you make it sound like I might sneak up on you and try to hypnotise you. Obviously I couldn't hypnotise you if you sit there and deliberately ignore me, or start singing out loud or something daft.

"Its not so much as not being able to be hypnotised as simply not allowing it."

You're making it into some kind of challenge to not take part and make the performer fail. Generally, people take part because they want to be involved, not to see the performer fail. You don't pay for a band and hide their instruments. But each to their own. The people who come up and give it a go, but warn that it won't work on them, are the ones that are easiest to hypnotise. More so than people who would be described as having "weak" minds.

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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:09 pm

Peter Harrison wrote:
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Peter Harrison wrote:Ah, you're perfect. :shiver: :hehe:
Doubt it. As soon as you try to lead me I'm going to know what you're doing and why. Its not so much as not being able to be hypnotised as simply not allowing it.
Your choice of words also make it sound like I'm going to control you in some way. Actually, you make it sound like I might sneak up on you and try to hypnotise you. Obviously I couldn't hypnotise you if you sit there and deliberately ignore me, or start singing out loud or something daft.

"Its not so much as not being able to be hypnotised as simply not allowing it."

You're making it into some kind of challenge to not take part and make the performer fail. Generally, people take part because they want to be involved, not to see the performer fail. You don't pay for a band and hide their instruments. But each to their own. The people who come up and give it a go, but warn that it won't work on them, are the ones that are easiest to hypnotise.
Exactly. I wouldn't be up for it in the first place. The idea of letting someone do it to me bothers me. I have serious trust issues.
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by GeneticJen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:10 pm

Cool, I understand. :tup:

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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by devogue » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:12 pm

So what about David Blaine and the cards in the card window trick?

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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by leo-rcc » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:14 pm

I just saw on TV that the medium I love to hate, Char Margolis, is getting a new show.
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Feck » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:17 pm

I am interested to see how how it compares to chemically altered states. I'm very resistant to actually giving in and going with flow when bits of my brain are off on their own trying to make stuff up . :dono:

@ Dev there is someone inside the shop ..the card is covered by an advert "stuck" to the window the advert is pulled out the way with a length of fine line .....
Hey presto the card is visible to the outside .........And I think you knew that ;)
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:21 pm

I have a question. Why is David Baine?
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by GeneticJen » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:33 pm

How about one of you start a "How does this trick work?" thread somewhere, if there isn't already one?

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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by dinoboy » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:43 pm

Peter Harrison wrote:...

You're making it into some kind of challenge to not take part and make the performer fail. Generally, people take part because they want to be involved, not to see the performer fail. You don't pay for a band and hide their instruments. But each to their own. The people who come up and give it a go, but warn that it won't work on them, are the ones that are easiest to hypnotise. More so than people who would be described as having "weak" minds.
This has always interested me ("could I be hypnotized?").

I casually figured the answer is no, not because I feel I have a "strong" mind, but primarily because I instruct critical thinking skills and logical fallacies to students (so I feel I might have an advantage over many). That said, I then feel that this would make me a perfect candidate through my perceived overconfidence, as it were (Isandlwana comes to mind).

Do you find that certain character traits make hypnosis easier for you? Or for that matter, do you think by being skilled at "influencing" people in such a subtle way, that there is something to be learned about not being influenced by others (like marketing techniques)? Or are we all pretty much hopeless?
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Re: Magic, mentalism, stage hypnosis

Post by Magicziggy » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:53 am

I would have said "never get me" until about 20 years ago a seikh in Bangkok conned me out of 20pounds.
I was able to reflect afterwards that it had been worth the money because it made me very aware of my own susceptibility.
My mistake was assuming that I couldn't be hypnotised. Don't assume that.

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