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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Rum » Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:29 pm

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tattuchu wrote:I have to wonder what The Beatles would have been like if they hadn't broken up.
Most likely they would have done what the Rolling Stones finished up as: a bunch of geriatrics who parody their former selves for the sake of mountains of money.
They could not have stayed together. That was what made their genius and their tragedy too. You could see it from the start.

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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

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tattuchu wrote:I have to wonder what The Beatles would have been like if they hadn't broken up.
Most likely they would have done what the Rolling Stones finished up as: a bunch of geriatrics who parody their former selves for the sake of mountains of money.
They could not have stayed together. That was what made their genius and their tragedy too. You could see it from the start.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Martok » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:49 pm

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My introduction to the Beatles when I was 6 was from the American version of this LP.

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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by tattuchu » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:57 pm

I always forget about the early stuff, as great as it was, because it's just so different than their later output.

God, what is about Paul's voice? Is it just because I grew up with him, that it's familiar? Or is there something really rather special about it as I imagine there to be?
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by The Red Fox » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:04 am

Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. This, however, is good music...





Amazing what drugs do to the creative mind. They were a good band in the latter part of their career, but I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Maybe you had to be there? I don't know. I can think of bands which did a lot more for music at the time and aren't anywhere near as revered as The Beatles.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:07 am

tattuchu wrote:I always forget about the early stuff, as great as it was, because it's just so different than their later output.
The early stuff was terrible. And this is my main objection with with The Beatles. Their early stuff, which they became popular over, was hackneyed, wishy-washy tripe with feeble, inoffensive lyrics. Then they decided to have an image change, one Madonna would have been proud of, and decided "We're bad boys now" and made a couple of albums with some decent tunes and some artsy wankery. The modern equivalent is like The Jonahs Brothers suddenly throwing off their purity rings and trying to become like Radiohead (that's not that I'm saying the later Beatles stuff is like Radiohead oh no). They may have a new style but they're still lame underneath even if the new stuff is an improvement.
In fairness I could make a playlist of about 14-20 Beatles songs I'd listen to but after that :?
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Twoflower » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:14 am

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tattuchu wrote:I always forget about the early stuff, as great as it was, because it's just so different than their later output.
The early stuff was terrible. And this is my main objection with with The Beatles. Their early stuff, which they became popular over, was hackneyed, wishy-washy tripe with feeble, inoffensive lyrics. Then they decided to have an image change, one Madonna would have been proud of, and decided "We're bad boys now" and made a couple of albums with some decent tunes and some artsy wankery. The modern equivalent is like The Jonahs Brothers suddenly throwing off their purity rings and trying to become like Radiohead (that's not that I'm saying the later Beatles stuff is like Radiohead oh no). They may have a new style but they're still lame underneath even if the new stuff is an improvement.
In fairness I could make a playlist of about 14-20 Beatles songs I'd listen to but after that :?
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When I was in second grade I had huge crush on a classmate and I use to play this song and think about her. :D

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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Hermit » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:29 am

The Red Fox wrote:Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. [snip] I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You need to see it in the context of their time. The airwaves were chock-a-block with Mantovani's cascading violins, crooners, The Typewriter Song - and similarly treacly schmaltz. Then the Beatles blew all that crap out of the way. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah did to the bastions of offensively middle-of-the road music what the trumpets did to Jericho. I heard it while playing with my matchbox cars, aged ten, rushed to the valve-driven wireless and turned it up. My mother said the German equivalent of "WTF!", then bobbed along with the song. So, to understand what happened, I guess you're right; you had to be there.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:32 am

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The Red Fox wrote:Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. [snip] I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You need to see it in the context of their time. The airwaves were chock-a-block with Mantovani's cascading violins, crooners, The Typewriter Song - and similarly treacly schmaltz. Then the Beatles blew all that crap out of the way. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah did to the bastions of offensively middle-of-the road music what the trumpets did to Jericho. I heard it while playing with my matchbox cars, aged ten, rushed to the valve-driven wireless and turned it up. My mother said the German equivalent of "WTF!", then bobbed along with the song. So, to understand what happened, I guess you're right; you had to be there.
Not really. I mean you had Elvis and you had Buddy Holly and the Crickets (The Beatles called themselves that so they would have an insect-y name like them) and the likes so to say The Beatles blew all that away is an over-statement. They wouldn't even have existed without these bands.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by tattuchu » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:39 am

I dunno, Ani. They were a completely different band in the early days, but I still loved them. There was always a magic there as far as I'm concerned. Sure some of the early stuff was kinda lame. But even the lame stuff was catchy as hell.
I wouldn't call these song lame, though:








And tell me you don't get goose bumps at the one minute mark on this one:


I could go on and on and on. Dude, their early stuff was fucking fantastic :shock:

Jesus God, Paulie's voice transports me to another dimension. I wish they did more straight-ahead rock and roll like this:


Okay, I guess I'll stop now :? The point is, I could easily come up with 14-20 great songs just from their early pre-Rubber Soul period :dono:
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Martok » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:40 am

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The Red Fox wrote:Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. [snip] I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You need to see it in the context of their time. The airwaves were chock-a-block with Mantovani's cascading violins, crooners, The Typewriter Song - and similarly treacly schmaltz. Then the Beatles blew all that crap out of the way. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah did to the bastions of offensively middle-of-the road music what the trumpets did to Jericho. I heard it while playing with my matchbox cars, aged ten, rushed to the valve-driven wireless and turned it up. My mother said the German equivalent of "WTF!", then bobbed along with the song. So, to understand what happened, I guess you're right; you had to be there.
Very true. I heard Jerry Lee Lewis say the Beatles blew all the crooners off the charts back then. He said the charts were filled with Bobby this and Bobby that and then the Beatles came along and changed the music scene in the US instantly.

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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

Post by Animavore » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:43 am

tattuchu wrote:And tell me you don't get goose bumps at the one minute mark on this one:
Hardly. It sounds like something that would be played in an elevator.
If I want "goosebumps" I'll listen to Street Spirit shit even David Grey's Midnight Radio gives me more "goosebumps" than that.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

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Animavore wrote:
Seraph wrote:
The Red Fox wrote:Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. [snip] I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You need to see it in the context of their time. The airwaves were chock-a-block with Mantovani's cascading violins, crooners, The Typewriter Song - and similarly treacly schmaltz. Then the Beatles blew all that crap out of the way. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah did to the bastions of offensively middle-of-the road music what the trumpets did to Jericho. I heard it while playing with my matchbox cars, aged ten, rushed to the valve-driven wireless and turned it up. My mother said the German equivalent of "WTF!", then bobbed along with the song. So, to understand what happened, I guess you're right; you had to be there.
Not really. I mean you had Elvis and you had Buddy Holly and the Crickets (The Beatles called themselves that so they would have an insect-y name like them) and the likes so to say The Beatles blew all that away is an over-statement. They wouldn't even have existed without these bands.
...not to mention Bill Haley and the Comets. It is true, the Beatles were not the first to ring in the changes, but nobody swept the mind-numbing, torpid sludge aside as effectively as they did. They were the breath of fresh air, the new broom. Everybody realised that at the time. Even my father, who did not like them because of the length of their hair.
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Re: The Beatles broke up 40 years ago today

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Seraph wrote:
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The Red Fox wrote:Everything they did before they took acid was bland pop and overrated to the extreme. [snip] I don't understand why people insist on acting as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You need to see it in the context of their time. The airwaves were chock-a-block with Mantovani's cascading violins, crooners, The Typewriter Song - and similarly treacly schmaltz. Then the Beatles blew all that crap out of the way. She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah did to the bastions of offensively middle-of-the road music what the trumpets did to Jericho. I heard it while playing with my matchbox cars, aged ten, rushed to the valve-driven wireless and turned it up. My mother said the German equivalent of "WTF!", then bobbed along with the song. So, to understand what happened, I guess you're right; you had to be there.
Not really. I mean you had Elvis and you had Buddy Holly and the Crickets (The Beatles called themselves that so they would have an insect-y name like them) and the likes so to say The Beatles blew all that away is an over-statement. They wouldn't even have existed without these bands.
...not to mention Bill Haley and the Comets. It is true, the Beatles were not the first to ring in the changes, but nobody swept the mind-numbing, torpid sludge aside as effectively as they did. They were the breath of fresh air, the new broom. Everybody realised that at the time. Even my father, who did not like them because of the length of their hair.
Are you seriously trying to say that Elvis et al didn't "sweep aside the mind-numbing sludge"? I find that hard to believe. Unless you're trying to say that England was behind America in regards to rock'n'roll in which case I'll concede your point.
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