The Obama Deception?

[Animavore]

This film is totally inane

This is the type of shit David Icke fans lap up like saucers of milk.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1843120756

[Chinaski]

I don't have time to watch it all. What's the gist of it?

[klr]

From what I know of this, and of Alex Jones in general, I'm not going to waste my any of my precious monthly download allocation looking at it right now. :hum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)

[Animavore]

I don't have time to watch it all. What's the gist of it?

It's paranoid claptrap from a "9/11 Truther". It talks a lot about the "New World Order."

It's not worth watching.
I've turned it off already.

[Animavore]

From what I know of this, and of Alex Jones in general, I'm not going to waste my any of my precious monthly download allocation looking at it right now. :hum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)

Get a better provider. I've unlimited download with TalkTalk.

[klr]

From what I know of this, and of Alex Jones in general, I'm not going to waste my any of my precious monthly download allocation looking at it right now. :hum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)

Get a better provider. I've unlimited download with TalkTalk.

I'm happy with what I've got (O2), especially seeing as I need mobile as opposed to fixed broadband.

When I want to download big video clips, there's always work.

[AshtonBlack]

From what I know of this, and of Alex Jones in general, I'm not going to waste my any of my precious monthly download allocation looking at it right now. :hum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)

Get a better provider. I've unlimited download with TalkTalk.

I'm happy with what I've got (O2), especially seeing as I need mobile as opposed to fixed broadband.

When I want to download big video clips, there's always work.

naughty!

It's really HARD to nick bandwidth at work now , bloody mil nets. , but not, erm... impossible.

[Har]

Description found on the side:

The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people. The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery. We have reached a critical juncture in the New World Order's plans. and only by exposing the con can we help to save freedom in America. The Obama Deception is not about Left or Right: it's about a One World Government. The international banks plan to loot the people of the United States and turn them into slaves on a Global Plantation. Covered in this film: who Obama works for, what lies he has told, and his real agenda, and how his initial appointments and actions prove he serves the corporate oligarchs, not the American people.

[Animavore]

And here's a thorough debunking from a Conservatist.

The Obama Deception Debunked Part I

Since this movie was pushed by 9-11 Truth Groups at tea parties on Wednesday, and now is being advertised on both Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck's radio programs I thought I would discuss the film.

First, understand that the tea party crowd may enjoy the title, but they're really not the target market for this nonsense. This film is really aimed at leftist supporters of Obama, trying to peel them away, as anybody can tell very quickly.

For example, one of the early messages Alex Jones pushes is that Obama is just like Bush; not a sentiment likely to win converts on the right. He notes that Obama kept Gates as defense secretary; this of course is one of the things that conservatives would give Obama credit for.

The movie starts with KRS-One, apparently a famed rapper (dang, I knew I should have listened to that crap more). He gives a rather silly monologue about how Obama is the manager at Burger King. If you don't like your burger at Burger King, you can't just go to the cashier, you need to go above Obama the manager to the guy who actually owns the franchise. I'm thinking that the burger is the economy and the franchise owner is the New World Order.

Next we go to a group discussion including those noted deep thinkers, Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson. Jesse tells us that politics is like pro wrestling; they may hate each other in front of the cameras but they're best buds when the red light goes off. This is relatively non-controversial; Orrin Hatch and Ted Kennedy apparently do get along famously in private life. But what Alex Jones is selling with this bit is that they're all secretly conspiring to do something nasty to us and just pretending to have political differences (which is completely untrue).

Now we get to the man that Jones is selling as his Obama expert: Webster Tarpley. Tarpley is a former Lyndon LaRouche follower; he was LaRouche's main man in Europe for decades, before being purged with the rest of the Baby Boomers in the late 1990s as LaRouche focused his hucksterism on Generation X.

And indeed, much of the film could have been done by the LaRouche people; LaRouche often railed about the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, two organizatons that along with the Bilderbergers get prominent play in the movie. Tarpley is also the usual cited source for the idiotic leftist claim that Prescott Bush was the banker to the Nazis, a ridiculous misreading of the actual facts.

Tarpley tells us that Obama's working for Wall Street, another claim not likely to win the Obama Deception believers on the right wing.

Then comes Joe Rogan. I mean seriously. So far we've had a rapper, a wrestler, a country and western singer, a LaRouche cult member and now we get the former host of Fear Factor? Oh, but he's got so much credibility because he's a mixed martial arts announcer! One of the usual faults of conspiracy theories is the "Appeal to Authority," but in this case Alex seems to be going with "Appeal to Celebrity."

Jones' first words (his voice is distinctively gravelly) should likely cause the conservative tea partiers to pop open their DVD players and scale the Obama Deception towards the garbage can.

"America in 2009 was desperate for change. The prior eight years had been a disaster."

Okay, seriously, is there any conservative that needs to hear more? But in case they do, I would like to point out that this video is produced by Alex Jones, who spent the last 7 years claiming that the terrorist attacks of 9-11 were a conspiracy planned and orchestrated by the Bush Administration. No matter how much you may hate Obama (and I see a fair amount of it), you don't like Alex Jones.

For the most part, this movie is yet another recycling of Alex Jones' master conspiracy theory. Jones believes that the New World Order is upon us, that the upper classes are going to kill 80% of us, and enslave the rest. At least, that's what he sells to the idiots who subscribe to his site. Let me put it this way; Jones is competing with the nice gentleman in Nigeria who alerted you to that fortune the uncle you never heard of left behind in his bank before that unfortunate plane crash.

Jones should not appeal to sincere conservatives. Let me point out that because his target market is mostly the kind of disaffected twenty-somethings wandering around in black tee-shirts, he routinely disparages the police, talking about how they pick the dumb, evil ones purposely. Ditto with the military; Jones despises the US military. Oh, remember that guy who shot three cops in Pittsburgh a couple weeks ago? Big Alex Jones fan.

Observe the people that Jones cites as his experts; Webster Tarpley, a Lyndon LaRouche 9-11 Truther who's such a jerk that fully 3/4 of the 9-11 Truthers hate him. And what does Tarpley accuse Obama of? Not being a socialist or a communist. He's a freaking agent of finance capitalism, a creature of Wall Street.

Okay, the next conservative who thinks that Obama represents the capitalists on Wall Street can raise their middle hand.

So why am I posting this now? Because we're now getting an incredible surge in traffic over the Obama Deception. We really try to be non-partisan around here, but it is no secret that I supported John McCain for president in 2008, and I remain critical of Obama's performance, particularly on the spending side.

I will put up more detailed pieces debunking the film, now that I see the reception it is getting. But any conservative that wants to know what I think of the Obama Deception should know that it's a piece of crap, and relying on it for anything is likely to make you look like a fool to anyone with Google. Let me give a simple example. In the movie, we are presented with the following quote from Abraham Lincoln:

I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me & the financial institutions at the rear, the latter is my greatest foe. Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.



In fact, this is an old fraudulent quote. How old? It was debunked in an 1896 letter to the editor of the New York Times.

To our liberal readers, forgive me the political intrusion in the above post. I am trying to debunk a ridiculously stupid movie about Barack Obama that is apparently catching on with conservatives.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/20 ... art-i.html

[charlou]

Description found on the side:

The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people. The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery. We have reached a critical juncture in the New World Order's plans. and only by exposing the con can we help to save freedom in America. The Obama Deception is not about Left or Right: it's about a One World Government. The international banks plan to loot the people of the United States and turn them into slaves on a Global Plantation. Covered in this film: who Obama works for, what lies he has told, and his real agenda, and how his initial appointments and actions prove he serves the corporate oligarchs, not the American people.

I grew up listening to people claiming 'prophetic knowledge' about shite like this. People at once fearful of it, and welcoming it as the preordained step toward 'Rapture' and 'Armageddon'.

You know, there may eventually be some kind of government similar to what is described (overpopulation and unsustainable and dwindling resources being a likely catalyst), but of course it will not be bearing out any holy prophesy, preordained and played out by supernatural decree. Such conjecture about what may happen in an uncertain future is to be expected and a 'one world' type goverment may or may not eventuate ... just as an eventual return to small, self sufficient tribal groups, or all life being completely wiped out by some catastrophic natural event, may or may not eventually happen ...

[Xamonas Chegwé]

You wait till the New World Order come up against the Illuminati - then there'll be trouble!

I fucking hate all this secret conspiracy bollocks.

[Animavore]

You wait till the New World Order come up against the Illuminati - then there'll be trouble!

I fucking hate all this secret conspiracy bollocks.

Yes. Everyone who's anyone knows the real string-pullers are the crab people from the lower mantle.

[Existentialist1844]

I don't have time to watch it all. What's the gist of it?

It's paranoid claptrap from a "9/11 Truther". It talks a lot about the "New World Order."

It's not worth watching.
I've turned it off already.

I know someone (not a friend. a friend of a friend) who believe the New World Order is going to take over the world.

[Woodbutcher]

I don't have time to watch it all. What's the gist of it?

It's paranoid claptrap from a "9/11 Truther". It talks a lot about the "New World Order."

It's not worth watching.
I've turned it off already.

I know someone (not a friend. a friend of a friend) who believe the New World Order is going to take over the world.

It's happened already. You are being watched.