Mythadventures game thread: Mythconceptions

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DAY 4
ut
Azathoth ….……. 0 …… (grit)
gib ………...…….. 1 ……. (r.c)
r.c
grit ………..…….. 1 ……. (UT)
divagreen ……… 5 ……. (DP, charlou, Aza, Mantis, Aza, gib)
charlou
Don't Panic ……. 2 ……. (gib, grit, diva)
Mantisdreamz

[grit]

So what does everyone think of charlou or r.c?

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i'm thinking that there's no way there could be 3 scum left.. i'm hoping 2

i've also been on this DP is town thing, but I see that day 1 he voted Irre (don) as mayor.

IF DP is who he says he is, Aahz the pro-town-indie, then I think it likely there's 3 scum left, 'cause town should still have a Seer, and the Immobilizer possibly pro-town or scum. In MythAdvebtures, Aahz was a special with lost powers, so if DP is true and the role true-to-flavour, DP may be vanilla Indie with a likelihood of 3 scum.

With town having a Bodyguard, Busdriver, and Seer (which having a scum Don indicates to me there must be a Seer), would seem to indicate all the scum left are not vanilla, so scum may have a roleblocker (or some weird oblivion thingie) or maybe the Immobilizer. If DP/Aahz is scum, he likely is something special and there's only 2 scum left, but DP can't be the Immobilizer, IMO.

I still can't tell about the alignment of the Immobilizer, and the number of scum may depend on whether that role is scum or pro-town.

The main thing is to get the lynch right TODAY, 'cause I think we have used up our mis-lynches as town.

[grit]

So what does everyone think of charlou or r.c?

eta ^ A lot may depend on whether one thinks gib is town or scum, because UT and today's fewest posters, charlou and r.c, have said that gib is atop their scum lists.

[grit]

Well, it's been over an hour and no one wants to talk, and it's time for me to call it a night; so for my 5 post combo let me just say that without further clarification from DP, my vote stands.
Maybe DP is town, and charlou and r.c and Aza; but it's hard to see how DP went from the lynch lead to three votes down without making a single post. Maybe silence is golden this game.
I may not get back before Nightfall, but will try to check back if I can.

[charlou]

charlou has maybe light posted, but has been helpful to me all game.

You've made this point a few times throughout the game ... making it sound as though I'm posting only for your benefit. Seems subtly manipulative, but I let it slide the first couple of times.

Either way, it seems to give credence to letting him slide yet again today and find some other scum to lynch; but my town game is obviously not that good. I'd lynch him in a heartbeat if we both agreed.

re the bit I've bolded: You've said this a few times too. Nice way to preempt and deter any suspicion of scumminess on your part. I let this slide the first couple of times.

Both of these have grated throughout the game, but don't amount to much in isolation. What really has me concerned is the hedgy way you've called your thoughts about players (see example in first quote above "charlou has maybe light posted, but has been helpful to me all game", leaving room to swing one way or the other.

That and the rapport you've established with gib, based on ... what exactly?

[charlou]

DP must be pro-town.

Scum always get safeclaims and Ob usually leaves some major names for that too. A name claim means bugger all. That said I'm happy with the diva lynch today

##vote diva##

agree about the name claim, it's a role claim that actually means something. I still think grit asking for it is highly sus.

Is there any chance of you actually getting in here and playing? These drive by lynch votes are giving us nothing to go on. Try to remember that you not only have to find scum but also post enough for us to read you. Both you and char have been going out of your way to make endgame a guessing game for town and it really stinks.

While I'd like to have more to read from Az I don't find his style any different to his usual town play ... I always want to have more to read from Az. This a point I also differ with diva, who's said Az is not playing his town game. He could be scum, but his gameplay this game is not indicative. I find it difficult to fault him for the MSG votes as I also thought MSG was scum, and increasingly so as the game progressed.

If you want to look at someone who's getting a free pass on minimal posting, try rc. So he's new to ratz, but that doesn't mean he can't be scum, does it. Wishy washy and minimalist all game, so far.

[charlou]

i'm thinking that there's no way there could be 3 scum left.. i'm hoping 2

i've also been on this DP is town thing, but I see that day 1 he voted Irre (don) as mayor.

IF DP is who he says he is, Aahz the pro-town-indie, then I think it likely there's 3 scum left, 'cause town should still have a Seer, and the Immobilizer possibly pro-town or scum. In MythAdvebtures, Aahz was a special with lost powers, so if DP is true and the role true-to-flavour, DP may be vanilla Indie with a likelihood of 3 scum.

With town having a Bodyguard, Busdriver, and Seer (which having a scum Don indicates to me there must be a Seer), would seem to indicate all the scum left are not vanilla, so scum may have a roleblocker (or some weird oblivion thingie) or maybe the Immobilizer. If DP/Aahz is scum, he likely is something special and there's only 2 scum left, but DP can't be the Immobilizer, IMO.

I still can't tell about the alignment of the Immobilizer, and the number of scum may depend on whether that role is scum or pro-town.

The main thing is to get the lynch right TODAY, 'cause I think we have used up our mis-lynches as town.

grit, if I understood the bit I've bolded, you're raising the notion of an indie special with no power? And, going by your other comments, you're basing this on the name claim, along with the avatar and the timing of it? You'll have to explain how this works, as I don't see the point, frankly.

DP and Diva ... If he's not town, or at least town friendly, then he's bussing her, and he's been doing so since day two. Read her posts.

[charlou]

DP provides a list of players in order of how much he thinks they are scum that just happens to coincide with how well he knows and likes the players in that game and you are letting that fly? What a fucking joke. At least when I provide lists I try to back it up with reasons of gameplay.

To be fair, I have to agree with this.

DP, some rationale for your list would be helpful.

[charlou]

This DP / diva thing, and how grit fits into it, has reached fucking epic wifom proportions in my mind.

unvote


Oh, is it okay for me to ignore time zones and FOS all of you for posting so little?

[charlou]

[Uselesstwit]

hi char, how's it going?

[Uselesstwit]

DP must be pro-town.

Scum always get safeclaims and Ob usually leaves some major names for that too. A name claim means bugger all. That said I'm happy with the diva lynch today

##vote diva##

agree about the name claim, it's a role claim that actually means something. I still think grit asking for it is highly sus.

Is there any chance of you actually getting in here and playing? These drive by lynch votes are giving us nothing to go on. Try to remember that you not only have to find scum but also post enough for us to read you. Both you and char have been going out of your way to make endgame a guessing game for town and it really stinks.

While I'd like to have more to read from Az I don't find his style any different to his usual town play ... I always want to have more to read from Az. This a point I also differ with diva, who's said Az is not playing his town game. He could be scum, but his gameplay this game is not indicative. I find it difficult to fault him for the MSG votes as I also thought MSG was scum, and increasingly so as the game progressed.

If you want to look at someone who's getting a free pass on minimal posting, try rc. So he's new to ratz, but that doesn't mean he can't be scum, does it. Wishy washy and minimalist all game, so far.

I agree totally with this post. It does look like bored town aza, but i'd still like to see more of him. If he's one of the final people at endgame it's going to be impossible to clear him.

I've thought r.c. looked pretty dodgy all game. but at the moment i'm keeping that on the back burner. I really think that grit or gib might be taking us all for a ride and they're much more dangerous.

[r.c]

If you want to look at someone who's getting a free pass on minimal posting, try rc. So he's new to ratz, but that doesn't mean he can't be scum, does it. Wishy washy and minimalist all game, so far.

I agree, I have not posted enough, but not because I'm not trying. Without a knowledge of the gameplay of the various players here, I'm having to rely too much on hunches. Also I have never been in a scum team. That being said, here's what I think of the few players
grit: Has constantly been providing analysis of the posting behaviour of the players and I agree with a lot of them too. But he is still in my FOS, as he had almost zero suspicion until now and was helpful to town yet the scum did not kill him. His tag teaming with gib is kind of sus. I've mentioned this before that if there are four members in the scum, one of them would be playing an active town role. This is the main reason why I think one or both of gib and grit is scum.

As far as UT goes, I initially had my doubts regarding his timing of irre's lynch vote, but now I'm inclined to believe his explanation. Don't have anything else on UT.

divagreen : I still have an FOS on diva for voting adnosine, and her interaction with higgs2. Neither of which helped the town in any way.

[Uselesstwit]

i'm thinking that there's no way there could be 3 scum left.. i'm hoping 2

i've also been on this DP is town thing, but I see that day 1 he voted Irre (don) as mayor.

IF DP is who he says he is, Aahz the pro-town-indie, then I think it likely there's 3 scum left, 'cause town should still have a Seer, and the Immobilizer possibly pro-town or scum. In MythAdvebtures, Aahz was a special with lost powers, so if DP is true and the role true-to-flavour, DP may be vanilla Indie with a likelihood of 3 scum.

With town having a Bodyguard, Busdriver, and Seer (which having a scum Don indicates to me there must be a Seer), would seem to indicate all the scum left are not vanilla, so scum may have a roleblocker (or some weird oblivion thingie) or maybe the Immobilizer. If DP/Aahz is scum, he likely is something special and there's only 2 scum left, but DP can't be the Immobilizer, IMO.

I still can't tell about the alignment of the Immobilizer, and the number of scum may depend on whether that role is scum or pro-town.

The main thing is to get the lynch right TODAY, 'cause I think we have used up our mis-lynches as town.

grit, if I understood the bit I've bolded, you're raising the notion of an indie special with no power? And, going by your other comments, you're basing this on the name claim, along with the avatar and the timing of it? You'll have to explain how this works, as I don't see the point, frankly.

DP and Diva ... If he's not town, or at least town friendly, then he's bussing her, and he's been doing so since day two. Read her posts.

as for grit, there's a reason I have my vote on him. Several of his posts today scream of special hunting. getting the name claim from dp, getting aza to admit to not having a name, he effectively got 2 more peices of info that can only be use to scum in planning their night kill. Then he outs his own claim of being vanilla. if he is town he just zero'd a likely special for scum tonight and crossed 2 other names off the list of possible specials. it's either a monumentally bad play or he's a special hunting scum. as for the town aligned indie with no powers, i've never heard such a thing. even masons have the ability to pm each other, and if we have masons they should have cleared each other by now.

all that said, it does look as if at least one scum has been on the diva bw at some point today. it could be a bus on an locked in lynch or we have the wrong person. and I don't think we have the wrong person, the only reason I haven't changed my vote is because grit seems a bit flaily to me and I like having him under pressure.