Discworld Game Thread

[BarnettNewman]

MZ also white-knighted shizz on day 1 - sort of. He was discouraging a lynch of shizz and suggesting he be viewed instead. I guess we'll find out the state of things after today's lynch.

Earlier I noted who was online when the new day went up - if scum put the kill in straight away as soon as the day finished then one of the aforementioned could be scum.

Well it's not me. I simply logged in for the lynch result and suddenly day flipped to day.

[BarnettNewman]

It said he wins with scum but counts with town as parity. His goal would be to lynch town to win, that would include himself.

[Zigmen]

About 45 minutes left in the day.

[Feck]

##vote shizzle##

[amok]

No one's commenting, so I must be off base about RC?

[amok]

##vote MattShizzle##

We didn't do much Scum-hunting at all today. It's the other two I'm worried about.

[Zigmen]

Nightfall

[Zigmen]

You decide to throw Shizz in to the river.

Shizz was Cohen the Barbarian and Town.



Athene is your mayor. Night moves are due in 11 hours or less.

The living:

1. Feck
2. Gonzo
5. Athene
6. Amok
8. DP
9. Ksen
12. r.c
15. Barnett

The bleedin' demised:

3. MattShizzle - Cohen the Barbarian, Town
4. MZ - Lt. Blouse, Traitor
7. Oblivion - The Luggage, Indy SK
10. Linus - Twoflower, The Doc
11. Mantisdreamz - Lady Ramkin, Town
13. UT - Bloody Stupid Johnson, Town Inventor
14. Irre - Carrot, Town


Night Chat will continue in this thread.

[BarnettNewman]

Fucking hell. This is not good.

[BarnettNewman]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and put something forward that's been bugging me like crazy. It goes back to the whole "weird win condition" issue.

Day 1, Irre said:

I'll mention the elephant in the room. What do people make of the weird win condition?

I said:

I'll bite. What's weird about the win condition?

Feck said:

well the lack of one really !

Irre said:

The game is going to happen to end, and town may happen to win. To me, this is weird. And yes I'm paraphrasing as I must do.

I said (adding bold):

There's nothing in my PM about a weird win condition. I just went back to read it again. I don't really know what else to say.

Night 1, I said (adding bold)

Except Mantis didn't see it, either. My suspicion of her was mostly based, in fact, on that I thought she was Scum jumping on the chance to say the same thing I did, knowing I'd flip Town if lynched. I thought I'd be lynched for that, and I was also thinking Scum would think I'd be lynched for that. I'm surprised I wasn't.

Of course, I was wrong about Mantis. But I really did see nothing weird about my PM. It's (beginning) to click a bit now, but that's hindsight.

Day 2, Feck said (bold added):

the win condition thing is a bust as we have no way of knowing if scum knew towns PM or if different people got different win conditions ....
just for the record Mine did not actually give a win condition for town it said I was town and I would win with town but no mention of how town would win (ie it did not say "when all threats to town are eliminated" or "when all scum are dead" ..BUT I don't think Irre scum would have used the win condition thing on day one

RC said:

I got the same message. I didn't think there was anything weird in that. Isn't killing scum an implicit goal for town.Although It might be ambiguous wrt an indi/sk.

I said:

Feck, did you just set a trap?

You see, I thought RC had been trapped, because my PM didn't say ANYTHING after giving me my role. Not even "you win with Town." I backed off when Feck later said he hadn't been setting a trap, but at this stage, and keeping in mind that the PMs really might have been different for everyone...

There are only nine left, and six of us must be town. Was I really the only one whose PM didn't say ANYTHING other than my role?

I'm bumping this because I think it's a good point. (fixed the quote tag on r.c.)

[BarnettNewman]

It would be hard for r.c. to intuit any if that from the posts.

[Gonzo]

God damn it. If there are still three scum left, the only thing I can think of is a mass claim for the town to still win this game. ksen and athene have outed already, that leaves six of us.

I am Hrun the Barbarian aligned with NightWatch and vanilla town. I started the game with The Sword Kring and passed it to oblivion night one. Not sure if it's been used or if someone still has it at this point, but I was given no info about what it does when it's used.

[r.c]

I thought there was one more hour in the day. It had a terrible day yesterday (had to work all night).

After we agreed that ksen and athene are most likely town cause they was no counterclaim, I don't think this has much relevance now.

Bollocks that hurt town, even thought he won with scum . I was blocked last night BTW

It could just be a clever scum tactic.

[r.c]

The message from zigmen said that I'm town and I win if town wins. There was no explicit win condition.

[Feck]

The message from zigmen said that I'm town and I win if town wins. There was no explicit win condition.

Well
Yes. but that was yesterdays news .