Those who have come from Pz's blog, aka THAT thread

[Wumbologist]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

[Bella Fortuna]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

Yes. GET OUT.

[laklak]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

Depends. Shopping for ammunition, weapons, hardware or electronic devices is OK. Food shopping is questionable, but still within civilized parameters. Shopping for clothes or shoes is just gay.

[Wumbologist]

Depends. Shopping for ammunition, weapons, hardware or electronic devices is OK. Food shopping is questionable, but still within civilized parameters. Shopping for clothes or shoes is just gay.

If I buy 500 rounds of 9x19 and a few shirts from H&M in the same trip does it cancel out?

[Twoflower]

Shopping is fun.

[Kristie]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

It makes you awesome!

[Ian]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

It makes you awesome!

I can take him over to JC Penney, where I do most of my shopping.

[Wumbologist]

I can take him over to JC Penney, where I do most of my shopping.

[Kristie]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

It makes you awesome!

I can take him over to JC Penney, where I do most of my shopping.

Hush, you're no longer awesome.

[Robert_S]

Shopping is fun.

I'm partial to lawn sales and pawn shops these days! So much stuff all jumbled together to look through. Like a treasure hunt!

[Ian]

Damn it! You should've told me! We could've hit the mall in St Louis!!

They have malls in DC, right? Does clothes shopping make me a gender traitor?

It makes you awesome!

I can take him over to JC Penney, where I do most of my shopping.

Hush, you're no longer awesome.

I know.

[Kristie]

Shopping is fun.

I'm partial to lawn sales and pawn shops these days! So much stuff all jumbled together to look through. Like a treasure hunt!

Damn you guys!! We should've shopped more during the Train Wreck!

[mozg]

Depends. Shopping for ammunition, weapons, hardware or electronic devices is OK. Food shopping is questionable, but still within civilized parameters. Shopping for clothes or shoes is just gay.

If I buy 500 rounds of 9x19 and a few shirts from H&M in the same trip does it cancel out?

You must purchase at least 100 rounds of 9x19 per shirt, unless the shirts are any shade of pink or purple.

Then you must purchase at least 100 rounds of at least .40 S&W or larger to offset.

[Robert_S]

Well, I see Brave Sir PZ ran away. And took his toys with him. Unfortunately that's a symptom we've seen in him and his "movement" - an increasing isolation and refusal to discuss anything outside of the places that are controlled by banning and editing. I was really amazed he even came here - he rarely comments anywhere that he isn't his own or an ally's (like OB).

Over at FftB, the usual suspects are crowing about people saying things about harassment, yet are unable to see that it applies to them as well (for an example, see Take Your Hate Elsewhere. I admit that I like jokes, and mockery, and am quite free with poking people with sticks, but it depends on the place and circumstances too. I have had to bite my tongue in school when my normal response is sarcasm - definitely not good when dealing with kids. When talking one on one, I try to moderate that as well, unless the conversation is going nowhere or I am attacked. In the Slyme Pit, where we go to talk and blow off steam, I am not going to moderate (well, not much). Here, I plan to since this is a more restrained place (maybe more family friendly?) - not that people hold back, just that there is more effort to understand. I think that's a better way to describe what I've seen.

I did want to bring up something I wrote in a pm about the "survivor" label. I remember long ago (I'm 45) that the term came about because people were tired of being "victims" all their life. They weren't a rape victim, they were a rape survivor. Meaning they had been raped but went on and grew past that. They didn't want to be, and weren't, defined by the horrible things that happened to them. It spread to other things that were physically or emotionally horrible - genocide, cancer, etc. It was a positive thing. Yet now it looks like some people don't want that - they use the term "survivor" as a bludgeon - they define themselves as perpetual victims and leave out the "move on" part. Moving on does not mean forgetting about it, or not working to stop it, but it does mean getting better. It means not using your victim status to shut people up or appeal for special treatment. It means you don't let what happened to you define who and what you are - a person who was raped, not a rape victim. Ok, that last line, maybe doesn't say what I mean clearly, but I hope people understand where I'm coming from. Does this make sense, or anyone see flaws? I'd like to know if I'm off base on this since it's just my opinion.

"Get out of my head!!!" This is precisely what I think. You do not become a survivor until you move on. A club for rape victims, alcoholics or drug users is OK, but a lifetime membership in it is a fool thing to do. Your "club" would be, for you, the only safe place to be, therefore it would limit your interaction with real life, and you would be unable to function. That's why I left AA, it contained victims and those who were unable to move on. Granted, some were better off in there, they would have been unable to survive without constant encouragement and supervision, but I felt that I had to join the real world to grow and heal. Scary, but true.

Precisely how I feel. When people advise to "move on" it's not meant as a diminishment or a slam... it's about not letting some horrible thing define who you are or using that as the only lens through which you see the world. That's a self-imprisonment I'd wish on no one.

As long as it isn't "Just get over it". You can say the words "move on" and convey the meaning "Just get the fuck over it" with voice and body language. Things take the amount of time they take. Not more or less to fit anyone's view of what should be.

AA helped me move on from a very bad place in my life, but there were some who made a whole life of it.

I can still use the smiley to convey fellowship and good cheer.

Here's to all the people who've been through one (or more) wringer or another and made a decent life on the other side.

[Jason]

In case anyone actually wanted this to die down and get back to more constructive things... sorry to say, he's keeping it going. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... -the-smug/

I'm getting sick of these popes, archbishops and spiritual fathers of atheism posting and sharing their shared 'opinions' of what atheism should be about. They're manufacturing a fucking CREDO of the TRUE atheists, rationalists, and freethinkers. If you do not abide by it you're a rapist, rape cheerleader, misogynist, racist scumbag (probably more).

I feel like I want to start Fight Club and watch it all come down as I listen to the Pixies.